Here in MO, new law coming...

Here in MO, new law coming...

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    Here in MO, new law coming...

    Just saw on the Blaze this AM, of course there's nothing so far in the local lamestream media...MO House passed a bill outlawing any new federal firearms laws in MO that are passed in 2013 or later. State Senate has to approve it as well, but with a big majority in both houses for conservatives, it shouldn't be a problem. Of course our ethically challenged Gov. can veto, but they can override his veto. Possible good news for a change!
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    unenforceable law as federal always trumps state but always nice to get an opinion out there.
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    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    WAY better than Colorado giving the secret service the right to remove from office any official not enforcing unconstitutional laws or Executive orders... Atleast MO is on the right side of the fence in this case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtfoxy View Post
    WAY better than Colorado giving the secret service the right to remove from office any official not enforcing unconstitutional laws or Executive orders... Atleast MO is on the right side of the fence in this case...
    What??? Secret Service deals with counterfeiting and presidential protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    What??? Secret Service deals with counterfeiting and presidential protection.
    Look it up! I can post links if you want!

    I am on the watch boys!

    Better yet..

    http://laneconservativeforum.org/fed...rest-sheriffs/

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    From the site given by GT.

    "It would establish federal authority police powers in a State, enabling an enforcement arm reporting directly to the president (the Secret Service)."

    For whatever reason, the author assumes the "enforceable arm" would be the Secret Service. There are many agencies that could be used, if you believe all that they write.
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    It's being introduced in Texas also, does that make you feel any better?

    States are being targeted by there vocal discord.

    Does it matter who is going to be removing said officer of law or is it OK if its some other "special agent / Swastika trooper"?

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    I could see Obama using blue helmets to confiscate weapons. After all, he's in bed with the United Nations small arms treaty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverickx50 View Post
    unenforceable law as federal always trumps state but always nice to get an opinion out there.
    Nope, unless state law is in violation of the COTUS that is not correct


    The Tenth Amendment states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceoky View Post
    Nope, unless state law is in violation of the COTUS that is not correct


    The Tenth Amendment states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people.
    The Tenth Amendment will be reversed, right after the 22nd Amendment is...you know, the one that limits the Little Dictator from being forced out of office after his second term. I wouldn't put anything past this current dictatorship...er, I mean administration!

    It is nice to see some states have sane leaders...kudos to MO and TX. It really sucks that I moved to Colorado three years ago...just in time to watch the libertards take over just like they did in my home state of CA.
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    I understand your frustration and lack of trust for this Regime (believe me I honestly do) , but the COTUS isn't easily reversed and ALL of the people have a major say in that, with all the red states that isn't going to happen any time soon, to the "would be king" chagrin .

    I find it alarming that so many people actually believe that "Fed law "always" trumps state law" when in reality that is far from true.....The gun grabbers seem to think we will sit back while they chip away at the BOR until they can finally say "well it doesn't really matter now anyway"- I think they just got a major wake up call along with the letters, emails and calls to oppose the last round of gun grabbing nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverickx50 View Post
    unenforceable law as federal always trumps state but always nice to get an opinion out there.
    There is a thing called State nullification of Fedl laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    What??? Secret Service deals with counterfeiting and presidential protection.
    I was wondering the same thing, I feel like the bill's author just arbitrarily picked the USSS. In a practical sense, public corruption is under the purview of the FBI, the USSS focus on protection, funny money, cyber crime, and sometimes act as a quasi internal affairs type element for major incidents involving other 1811 agencies (for instance, they did an outside investigation of the FBI's conduct at Waco since at the time the USSS was part of Treasury and FBI was (is) part of Justice).

    But hey, it's Colorado, everyone's high anyway!*





    *That is now my default explanation for anything lefty coming out of Colorado these days...it keeps things simple.

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