My CHP was denied. Any help?

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    My CHP was denied. Any help?

    I'm a va resident. I recently got denied because I answered yes to entering a treatment center for alcohol. I was not court ordered I did it on my own will. I appealed it and went in front of the judge and he still denied it. Does anyone know any other way I could get my CHP. Thanks.

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    Wow that's rough. Have you considered consulting a lawyer?

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    Someone told me its too late since I already went to court. I thought the judge would over turn it if I just explained the situation. But I was wrong.

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    You willmost likely have to wait 3 years and reapply
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    This won't help you with your CHL problem but maybe it will help you. Be proud of what you did to help yourself.
    Be proud that you were fully honest on the application. Remember that there are many ways to defend yourself, and
    a handgun is only one of them-- and often not even the best way.
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    You should still consult a lawyer. They would be better versed in knowing what your avenues of recourse are.

    I'm guessing from the sounds of it your treatment was fairly recent and that may be the reason for still denying your permit.
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    Thanks alot. I know if I answered no and some now they found out I'm pretty sure that's a felony. I guess it's not the end of the world. But my line of work I have alot of expensive things at my work and in my car. But Ill just keep my gun in my car or at my desk. Thanks for the help

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    It was 2 years ago. But I applied for my permit like 3 months ago

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    I’ll second the lawyer; they will be better versed in your options and the best course of action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsfan7086 View Post
    Someone told me its too late since I already went to court. I thought the judge would over turn it if I just explained the situation. But I was wrong.
    You should probably stop taking the advice of someone and get a real lawyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsfan7086 View Post
    I'm a va resident. I recently got denied because I answered yes to entering a treatment center for alcohol. I was not court ordered I did it on my own will. I appealed it and went in front of the judge and he still denied it. Does anyone know any other way I could get my CHP. Thanks.
    Contact a Lawyer. One that I personally know is Attny Evan Nappen. He's a real good Gun rights guy.Has a Office in NJ, so that should tell you something about him.
    Good Luck and hope it works out for you.
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    Just a little info if you didn't see it. On the VA web site for concealed handguns here is one of the stipulations for refusal of a carry permit.


    Virginia State Police - Resident Concealed Handgun Permits

    Persons Not Qualified to Obtain a Permit:

    18. An individual who has received mental health treatment or substance abuse treatment in a residential setting within five years prior to the date of his application for a concealed handgun permit.
    This may be why.
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    I assume that the judge is thinking that no matter who did the committing, it does not negate the existence of the problem.

    I can only assume that all the posters who champion the OP's cause have no experience with alcoholics or have seen the violence and irrational behavior they are capable of when they fall off the wagon, as many do during their lifetimes. I happen to know a few friends of Bill. One started drinking again and shot himself. Another got into an argument with a neighbor and went inside and grabbed his gun and headed towards the neighbors house. Luckily we stopped him. Knew a guy who put two sons, a wife and a daughter in the hospital due to beating them savagely. Also know a few people around here who have the problem and tell horror stories of how violent they got when they drank.

    Those I know that are recovering alcoholics are smart enough to know that they should not own guns. Guns in the wrong hands end up biting us in the butts when they make the national news. I am sure none of you even know this poster and yet you would like to see a gun in his hands. Be careful of what you wish for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_Dog View Post
    I assume that the judge is thinking that no matter who did the committing, it does not negate the existence of the problem.

    I can only assume that all the posters champion the OP's cause have no experience with alcoholics or have seen the violence and irrational behavior they are capable of when they fall off the wagon, as many do during their lifetimes. I happen to know a few friends of Bill. One started drinking again and shot himself. Another got into an argument with a neighbor and went inside and grabbed his gun and headed towards the neighbors house. Luckily we stopped him. Knew a guy who put two sons, a wife and a daughter in the hospital due to beating them savagely. Also know a few people around here who have the problem and tell horror stories of how violent they got when they drank.

    Those I know that are recovering alcoholics are smart enough to know that they should not own guns and so should we.
    hmm, I've known alcoholics, and drug abusers who, once they sought help on their own, did not return to those old habits. Four went to their graves straight and sober without causing further harm to anyone. 5 year wait seems to be a good litmus test to me.

    I do whole heartedly agree that not everyone should be armed though.
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    A judge already denied at an appeal hearing; therefore, there's not much you can do except to reapply in 3 years so that 5 years will have passed since last treatment to comply with VA law.
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