To educate/change the antigun mindset of Americans

To educate/change the antigun mindset of Americans

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    To educate/change the antigun mindset of Americans

    Movies, TV shows have greatly impacted the mindset of Americans today.
    Even "Everybody Loves Raymond" has undertones of antigun when you consider how many times Ray's brother Robert is in NYPD uniform and not armed. Especially the episode of when he stopped a robbery in the pizza store with a pizza in the bg's face without ever drawing his gun.
    We need more movies, TV showing responsible gun owners (not a doofis) portrayed in a role the average person would like to identify with and emulate.

    Maybe a movie set in the future showing guns outlawed and scenes of what life has become - which some would think dramatized but we'd know would be true.
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    Interesting point. I never really watched that show alot, but did notice the lack of a sidearm (its the cop in me still). Most definitely there is an agenda being played out in HollyWeird, and more so in the media today. There are plenty of real life cases they could turn to that show how a responsible gun owner has proven to be a benefit to society. I guess many of the HollyWeird types selectively forget that a large portion of the arms used in the Revolutionary War were from private owners who would used them to liberate our country.
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    I remember as a young kid watching the first episode of "Barney Miller" and at the end of the episode Barney comes home takes off his snub,unloads it locks the gun in one cabinet and the bullets in the other [ I'm speaking from a safety point of view so all you tactical guys just slow your roll LOL] I thought that was cool.
    You might see something on Fox pro gun/sensible owner writing but not so much on the other networks.
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    Not everyone loves Raymond....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyCop View Post
    Movies, TV shows have greatly impacted the mindset of Americans today.
    Even "Everybody Loves Raymond" has undertones of antigun when you consider how many times Ray's brother Robert is in NYPD uniform and not armed. Especially the episode of when he stopped a robbery in the pizza store with a pizza in the bg's face without ever drawing his gun.
    We need more movies, TV showing responsible gun owners (not a doofis) portrayed in a role the average person would like to identify with and emulate.

    Maybe a movie set in the future showing guns outlawed and scenes of what life has become - which some would think dramatized but we'd know would be true.
    This is the case with not only guns, it also include "caucasian looking, middle aged men".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dV8r View Post
    This is the case with not only guns, it also include "caucasian looking, middle aged men".
    You mean right-wing domestic terrorists?

    I think that's what we're being called these days...
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    Very interesting to me how we are told actual gun violence in down (I have no idea if its really up or down)but our perceived danger is up, could it be the same Hollywood people that hate guns yet make their living off of pushing guns violence onto us could be the blame..... Oh sorry, I knew it not their fault!

    Hollywood is like a drug dealer pushing for tighter drug enforcement!
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    In a similar vein, notice how every now and then NRA members are characterized as drunken rednecks in various shows. This is, in my opinion, a clear agenda pushed by Hollywood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    In a similar vein, notice how every now and then NRA members are characterized as drunken rednecks in various shows. This is, in my opinion, a clear agenda pushed by Hollywood.
    I have never seen a show where an actor is an NRA member....drunken redneck or upstanding citizen. What show or movie has this been in? Now, granted I watch sports and Sci Fi mostly when I am not watching the View

    The OP is right though. I watch a lot of older shows and you can tell the "pulse" of the country and the mood by looking at the social issues and how they are portrayed.
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    Never watched but an episode or two of Raymond, but I do keep an old pizza by the front door just in case! NY style--old, smelly, and probably lethal in shoved down the throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Never watched but an episode or two of Raymond, but I do keep an old pizza by the front door just in case! NY style--old, smelly, and probably lethal in shoved down the throat.
    OV, that's a really good idea. I may have to move mine from the gun safe to the front door. Thanks for the advice.
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    Once: You might see something on Fox pro gun/sensible owner writing but not so much on the other networks
    Not to worry, according to the viewer polls, very few people watch CNN and even a smaller number watch MSNBC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCXDm9 View Post
    Very interesting to me how we are told actual gun violence in down (I have no idea if its really up or down)but our perceived danger is up, could it be the same Hollywood people that hate guns yet make their living off of pushing guns violence onto us could be the blame..... Oh sorry, I knew it not their fault!

    Hollywood is like a drug dealer pushing for tighter drug enforcement!
    Here's a link to the most recent DOJ report showing that gun violence is indeed down - http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fv9311.pdf

    What always amazed me on the procedural cop shows is how most of the time the officer's sidearm was in a desk drawer, only to be worn when leaving the building. You see that so much that it makes you wonder if LEOs really do that. As general practice it doesn't seem to make sense, but then again it isn't reality.

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    Even when they DO show firearms in a positive light, it's typically a character with special training or some position. Even when there is an incident that makes the news where a 'regular citizen' with a gun stops something, the media jumps all over making sure everyone knows that they were 'security', an ex-police officer, or someone going into law enforcement...any excuse to separate them from being a 'regular citizen'.

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