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    the best self defence pepper spray?

    Hello,

    I'm lokking for self defence pepper spray:
    It is almost impossible to decide which one I want.

    1. I want to attach it to the keyring (tiny it can be - hidden is a plus) .
    2. there isn't any limiting laws on defending sprays here, so, I want the hot as it can be (so I have the most confidence to use it, and make sure lasts long so the police have time to arrive)
    3. have as much capacity as it can be in small cap

    I intersted in "ASP Palm Defender" becuase it's small and can be attach to key ring.
    the cons is that it contain little capacity, and I don't know how hot the formula is.

    also, I intersted in Security Equipment Corporation Messages
    but it a littel bigger.

    I also need a online store that sells it interntionally becuase i'm not from USA and almost every online store don't allow int shipping.


    thanks!
    Last edited by wona; June 5th, 2013 at 11:24 AM.
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    J&L Self Defense Products

    Their DPS KeyChain Units

    DPS Keychains - DPS Pepper Spray - Pepper Spray - J & L Self Defense Products

    Very Good and Honest Company.

    I have had business dealings with them for many years.

    The DPS Spray is very potent and has a slightly greater effective range than most small key-chain type units.

    BUT, You are in Israel and many products cannot be shipped internationally to certain countries and also I have no idea what your shipping costs would be.

    You will need to contact them by phone because ALL of their International Orders are handled on a "Case By Case" basis.


    I would imagine that they could ship to Israel because Israel is friends with the U.S. but, I honestly do not know.

    So if they are able to ship to you then you might want to order more than one and then sell the extra ones to your friends and neighbors in Israel.

    Here is a link to the page with their contact information:
    They do have a number listed for calls from outside the U.S.
    http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/h...us&mode=update
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    Keep in mind that there are often different requirements on a state-by-state basis.

    Pepper Spray Laws - Find out if pepper spray is legal in your state

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    He is in the State Of Israel and not in the United states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    J&L Self Defense Products

    Their DPS KeyChain Units

    DPS Keychains - DPS Pepper Spray - Pepper Spray - J & L Self Defense Products

    Very Good and Honest Company.

    I have had business dealings with them for many years.

    The DPS Spray is very potent and has a slightly greater effective range than most small key-chain type units.

    BUT, You are in Israel and many products cannot be shipped internationally to certain countries and also I have no idea what your shipping costs would be.

    You will need to contact them by phone because ALL of their International Orders are handled on a "Case By Case" basis.


    I would imagine that they could ship to Israel because Israel is friends with the U.S. but, I honestly do not know.

    So if they are able to ship to you then you might want to order more than one and then sell the extra ones to your friends and neighbors in Israel.

    Here is a link to the page with their contact information:
    They do have a number listed for calls from outside the U.S.
    Help zone - J & L Self Defense Products
    I already email contacted this company. they don't ship pepper spray internationaly.
    It's almost like it's illegal to send spray like this in airmail (there is US laws like that?), becuase I couldn't find any brand that allow to ship it yet. (and I don't want to count on Chinese type)

    anyway, the DSP is strong enough? (I want to be sure so it can stop street robbery and wild dogs)
    most famous brand I saw is FOX and SABRE.


    the problem is that I can't find any US company that allow int shipping. (I actually don't shipping will be costly, I used ebay consistently. but again, there is no US brand with int shipping.. strange)
    I'll be glad if anyone knows online store that will allow int shipping.


    Quote Originally Posted by cn262 View Post
    Keep in mind that there are often different requirements on a state-by-state basis.

    Pepper Spray Laws - Find out if pepper spray is legal in your state
    i'm from Israel.
    Here, there are no any restrictions on self defence sprays. (there is only restrections on knifes, but I don't want it anyways)

    thanks!

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    Look for your preferred brand on eBay is about the best I can suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    J&L Self Defense Products

    Their DPS KeyChain Units

    DPS Keychains - DPS Pepper Spray - Pepper Spray - J & L Self Defense Products

    Very Good and Honest Company.

    I have had business dealings with them for many years.

    The DPS Spray is very potent and has a slightly greater effective range than most small key-chain type units.

    BUT, You are in Israel and many products cannot be shipped internationally to certain countries and also I have no idea what your shipping costs would be.

    You will need to contact them by phone because ALL of their International Orders are handled on a "Case By Case" basis.


    I would imagine that they could ship to Israel because Israel is friends with the U.S. but, I honestly do not know.

    So if they are able to ship to you then you might want to order more than one and then sell the extra ones to your friends and neighbors in Israel.

    Here is a link to the page with their contact information:
    They do have a number listed for calls from outside the U.S.
    Help zone - J & L Self Defense Products
    I already email contacted this company. they don't ship pepper spray internationaly.
    It's almost like it's illegal to send spray like this in airmail (there is US laws like that?), becuase I couldn't find any brand that allow to ship it yet. (and I don't want to count on Chinese type)

    anyway, the DSP is strong enough? (I want to be sure so it can stop street robbery and wild dogs)
    most famous brand I saw is FOX and SABRE.


    the problem is that I can't find any US company that allow int shipping. (I actually don't shipping will be costly, I used ebay consistently. but again, there is no US brand with int shipping.. strange)
    I'll be glad if anyone knows online store that will allow int shipping.


    Quote Originally Posted by cn262 View Post
    Keep in mind that there are often different requirements on a state-by-state basis.

    Pepper Spray Laws - Find out if pepper spray is legal in your state
    i'm from Israel.
    Here, there are no any restrictions on self defence sprays. (there is only restrections on knifes, but I don't want it anyways)

    thanks!
    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    Look for your preferred brand on eBay is about the best I can suggest.
    can't..

    it's the only thing that there is only US shipping in ebay :(

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    The problem might be that the Pepper Spray may not be allowed to be shipped by AIR.
    So possibly no places in the U.S. want to bother shipping anything by Ocean Freight.
    That might be why they do not want to ship Pepper Spray to any place internationally even though Israel is not a prohibited location.
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    I have had EXTENSIVE real world use of the "Freeze" brand of chemical sprays produced by Aerko International. Specifically I carried them as a police officer and have sprayed literally dozens of people with them. My recommendation would be the Freeze +P units which have a blend of OC pepper spray and CS "tear gas" (such as those used by the military). They are available online from a number of sources and come in different unit sizes and configurations. To be qualified to carry these we had to be subjected to a direct spray (this was before all the lawyers and pansies stepped in). I can tell you first hand both from actually using it on criminals and having tasted a nose full of it myself this stuff is awful, painful, and works exceptionally well!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    I have had EXTENSIVE real world use of the "Freeze" brand of chemical sprays produced by Aerko International. Specifically I carried them as a police officer and have sprayed literally dozens of people with them. My recommendation would be the Freeze +P units which have a blend of OC pepper spray and CS "tear gas" (such as those used by the military). They are available online from a number of sources and come in different unit sizes and configurations. To be qualified to carry these we had to be subjected to a direct spray (this was before all the lawyers and pansies stepped in). I can tell you first hand both from actually using it on criminals and having tasted a nose full of it myself this stuff is awful, painful, and works exceptionally well!!
    Freeze Products.jpg

    I attached a photo of their available units. As a side note, a majority of police departments around here carry this on duty. It has been in service for several years now and is still going strong.
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    I don't know if it sells internationally, but Kimber makes a product called "Pepperblaster" that looks like a small plastic derringer and has two "barrels" of spray, complete with trigger. The idea is it shoots globs of pepper gel accurately to a greater range than conventional spray (they even have a "laser-sight" attachment). I have no experience with it, but it seems like a good idea.

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    There is a chance that this company may ship to Israel but, I do not know anything about the company.
    Pepper Spray / OC Spray


    Isn't there a company in Israel that sells to Israeli Police?
    I know that the Israeli border cops carry OC Spray. Where are they getting it from?

    Do you know any Israeli Police Officers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    Freeze Products.jpg

    I attached a photo of their available units. As a side note, a majority of police departments around here carry this on duty. It has been in service for several years now and is still going strong.
    Oh....I forgot, you mentioned something about the time/duration of the spray's effects. The effects of course will vary, but they will be dripping snot streamers and cussing for about 30 minutes and not wanting to fight. I base this off of real world usage and sprayed mostly drunks and those under the influence of drugs. Even in these conditions it worked good. It also has an ultra-violet tracking dye built in so police can ID someone using a black light. When I was certified with it I received about a good 3-4 second shot in the eyes and nose. It took about 40 minutes for me to be able to see. The best use of this is a 3 to 5 second stream to the eyes/bridge of the nose area. This will get their vision and be in the region where it will be inhaled and affect their breathing. Of course if you can squirt a little on the tongue while doing it you will get a GREAT response out of them.
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    Out of curiosity I called Aerko. They are unaware of any restrictions on shipping directly to Israel. In fact, the representative I spoke with stated they use to buy their CS they used in the Freeze +P from Israel. You can find them on the internet at: aerko.com , and their U.S. "800" number is 800-565-8475. Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    The problem might be that the Pepper Spray may not be allowed to be shipped by AIR.
    So possibly no places in the U.S. want to bother shipping anything by Ocean Freight.
    That might be why they do not want to ship Pepper Spray to any place internationally even though Israel is not a prohibited location.
    I will try to ask about Ocean shipping (could pay extra more bucks)..

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    I have had EXTENSIVE real world use of the "Freeze" brand of chemical sprays produced by Aerko International. Specifically I carried them as a police officer and have sprayed literally dozens of people with them. My recommendation would be the Freeze +P units which have a blend of OC pepper spray and CS "tear gas" (such as those used by the military). They are available online from a number of sources and come in different unit sizes and configurations. To be qualified to carry these we had to be subjected to a direct spray (this was before all the lawyers and pansies stepped in). I can tell you first hand both from actually using it on criminals and having tasted a nose full of it myself this stuff is awful, painful, and works exceptionally well!!
    It's sounds great, you may have a online store that you familiar with?
    try to get this int shipping :(

    there is keyring mini bottle?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    Oh....I forgot, you mentioned something about the time/duration of the spray's effects. The effects of course will vary, but they will be dripping snot streamers and cussing for about 30 minutes and not wanting to fight. I base this off of real world usage and sprayed mostly drunks and those under the influence of drugs. Even in these conditions it worked good. It also has an ultra-violet tracking dye built in so police can ID someone using a black light. When I was certified with it I received about a good 3-4 second shot in the eyes and nose. It took about 40 minutes for me to be able to see. The best use of this is a 3 to 5 second stream to the eyes/bridge of the nose area. This will get their vision and be in the region where it will be inhaled and affect their breathing. Of course if you can squirt a little on the tongue while doing it you will get a GREAT response out of them.
    30 mintues is ok. just want to be sure that when use it the receiver will 100% capture by the police (without the need to stay near him when sprayed)


    Quote Originally Posted by maxwell97 View Post
    I don't know if it sells internationally, but Kimber makes a product called "Pepperblaster" that looks like a small plastic derringer and has two "barrels" of spray, complete with trigger. The idea is it shoots globs of pepper gel accurately to a greater range than conventional spray (they even have a "laser-sight" attachment). I have no experience with it, but it seems like a good idea.
    Yes, I already saw this model.
    acording to reveiws it's probably the best, becuase it's fires with distance and hit the target at high speed (even penetrates masks).
    but it's too big to put it on the keyring for fast deploy.


    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    There is a chance that this company may ship to Israel but, I do not know anything about the company.
    Pepper Spray / OC Spray


    Isn't there a company in Israel that sells to Israeli Police?
    I know that the Israeli border cops carry OC Spray. Where are they getting it from?

    Do you know any Israeli Police Officers?
    mailed them ATM.

    It's probably perrsonal import of the police and the military because I couldn't find any local company that sells high-end types.

    in suitable stores, I only can find some unbranded types (which can be ineffective) or
    just the big (the very big) of sabbre..
    there isn't any branded keyring types.

    as far as I know, not every Police Officers get OC Spray, but military woman do, and also soldiers that need to disperse rock throwing (it's still custom made type, so I can't know).


    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    Out of curiosity I called Aerko. They are unaware of any restrictions on shipping directly to Israel. In fact, the representative I spoke with stated they use to buy their CS they used in the Freeze +P from Israel. You can find them on the internet at: aerko.com , and their U.S. "800" number is 800-565-8475. Hope this helps.
    will contact them now :)

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