Our Grand Parents Pocket Pistols

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    Our Grand Parents Pocket Pistols

    When I was growing up, almost no one had carry permits. This had odd effects on the pistols that people bought.

    Generally speaking, a guy might buy a .22 pistol, and some big Dirty Harry thing that was impressive, and probably well made, but neither guns suited for CC. So when CC became available to most of us, gun makers had to play catch up with their gun selection.

    Pocket pistols really seem to have taken off in terms of popularity. I know I often pocket carry, and have several pocket pistols.

    One I have is a .25 Automatic Pistol, "Baby" Browning. It was my grandfathers. And its in mint condition. I dont often carry that gun, but it shoots great.

    It reminds me, though, that our grandparents and great grandparents, knew all about pocket pistols. It was just "bred out of" intervening generations. And now we are learning what our forefathers already knew.
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    The Missouri History Museum at Forest Park used to be called the Jefferson Memorial, and on the mezzanine level ther was nothing but pistols and rifles. I could spend hours and hours looking at them. They basically had one of every American made and many foreign made firearms up into the 20th century, but mostly antiques. They hade several cases with hundreds of different Derringers, pepper boxes, pocket pistols, "hideout guns", in all sorts of strange callibers,breaks, and actions. The variety was almost limitless. You looked at all of them and couldn't help but imagine the rogues gallery that carried them. I have no idea where they all went, and they do have interesting exhibits ther now, but it's nothing like it used to be for an adolescent gun nut. The WWI Memorial downtown has a wonderful collection of early 20th century military weapons, including German, Japanese, British, and a Swiss Solothurn 20mm recoiless rifle, which is pretty darn kewl.
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    It strikes me that we are returning to the way things used to be, in terms of going armed. And that we are right to do so.

    I, too, was fascinated by displays such as you described:)

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    Yes sir. no carry permits no polymer no gun laws. Wow must have been nice.
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    Cool

    Wow...Henry Bowman had a Swiss Solothurn 20mm rifle. He reloaded his 20mm cases and made his own projectiles on a lathe.
    One of the most absolutely super duper cool/kewl guns I ever had was a WWII Albion made Webley in 38S&W. I traded a Stihl saw straight across for it. Never ever take your favorite guns with you when you go to a Barter Faire.

    Whenever I'm traveling I always checkout the local museum and hit it before I head out. Lots of communities and small towns will have a pioneer museum. VFW and American Legion halls often have a few war souvenirs in a case somewhere.

    Checkout a Civil War Reenactment or Mountain Man Rendezvous the first chance you get. Walk down into the Primitive Area and feast your eyes on the guns and camp gear. Ask questions. Reenactors welcome questions and many will bend over backwards to help out Pilgrims. I know cuz I usedta be a Reenactor. HUA
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    Great subject! I'd imagine maybe something like this:



    Though that may possibly be great grandparents..
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    Fortunately technology has caught up with the concept; they can now make light .380 and 9mm pocket pistols that put out three to five times the muzzle energy of the old .25's, with greater durability, in the same size or smaller.
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    Henry Bowman! John Ross taught my CCW class, and for the practical we went and shot at his abandoned quarry. He brought all sorts of toys! That was the first and only time I fired a Thompson. Heavy and easy to control. The flying, open bolt was a little disconcerting at first, but once you shoot one you're hooked. I recently heard that the ATF agents in the book sued him (he used their real names). He's quite a charecter. My father was good friends with his sister (they were drinking buddies).
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    Quote Originally Posted by NONAME762 View Post
    Wow...Henry Bowman had a Swiss Solothurn 20mm rifle. He reloaded his 20mm cases and made his own projectiles on a lathe.
    One of the most absolutely super duper cool/kewl guns I ever had was a WWII Albion made Webley in 38S&W. I traded a Stihl saw straight across for it. Never ever take your favorite guns with you when you go to a Barter Faire.

    Whenever I'm traveling I always checkout the local museum and hit it before I head out. Lots of communities and small towns will have a pioneer museum. VFW and American Legion halls often have a few war souvenirs in a case somewhere.

    Checkout a Civil War Reenactment or Mountain Man Rendezvous the first chance you get. Walk down into the Primitive Area and feast your eyes on the guns and camp gear. Ask questions. Reenactors welcome questions and many will bend over backwards to help out Pilgrims. I know cuz I usedta be a Reenactor. HUA
    I belonged to a Mountain Man era black powder club for years when I was in Oklahoma. Rendezvous was our favorite shoot of the year. Most of the clubs from OK and TX showed up as well as people from MO, MI, OH and other scattered places. Great times, great shooting and at night GREAT stories and fire water!
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    Yep, very similar. Mine doesnt have the backstrap safety, though.
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    Great subject! I'd imagine maybe something like this:



    Though that may possibly be great grandparents..

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    Sitting in my safe is my Grandmother's old "Hopkins and Allen" 32 Short revolver that she carried with her for many a moon. Until this year when it was handed down to me it was thought to be broken, but as it turned out the cylinder pin was just placed in improperly. This oversight actually saved the life of a horse my grandmother tried to shoot when the horse, and its unwelcome owner, showed up on her door step. The rider took off at the sight of the gun, and since that day everyone thought the little bulldog of a gun to be unserviceable. It's an interesting story from a time long past when these little pocket guns were common place amongst the folks that went before us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    Sitting in my safe is my Grandmother's old "Hopkins and Allen" 32 Short revolver that she carried with her for many a moon. Until this year when it was handed down to me it was thought to be broken, but as it turned out the cylinder pin was just placed in improperly. This oversight actually saved the life of a horse my grandmother tried to shoot when the horse, and its unwelcome owner, showed up on her door step. The rider took off at the sight of the gun, and since that day everyone thought the little bulldog of a gun to be unserviceable. It's an interesting story from a time long past when these little pocket guns were common place amongst the folks that went before us.
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    My grandmothers. Probably someone before her too.

    Italian .22 4 barrel pepperbox. If you ever wondered whether it's possible to keyhole a bullet at 5 yards, the answer is yes. Yes it is.




    Iver Johnson .38 made for Harley Davidson. Someone did some back room gunsmithing on the barrel though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokeman View Post
    Let's see it.
    Will do....after posting this yesterday I went to my local gun shop on a whim. While there I picked up a near perfect Winchester Model 67 rifle that is almost identical to the one my dad has. The Lady of the House has the digital camera at work. As soon as it comes back to the ranch I will post some pics of them both.
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