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This is a discussion on Vacation in NYC and what I learned. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Our kids picked NYC for vacation this year and as we know that means no guns! I did take 2 Spiderco waves, one for my ...
Our kids picked NYC for vacation this year and as we know that means no guns! I did take 2 Spiderco waves, one for my left rear pocket and the other for my right front pocket.
What I learned, NYC is a pretty safe place if you stay in safe places. We did all the things people on vacation do, 9/11 memorial, Empire State building, Central Park, Coney Island, Kelly Ripa and Michael show, Time Square and road the subway all over the city.
We didn't stay out late (past 1 am) and kept to well populated places. We did go to the Top of Rock center on the spur of the moment and yes, I had both pocket knives with me and yes the sent me home to store them away. However, they were super nice about it and changed our tickets to a new time for us and even smiled when I said at least I left my gun at home!
NEXT time... I will buy a few throw away knives for days when we do things that I know will require being searched. That way if I have to hid it in the bushes or toss it out nothing will be lost. It took us an hour to walk back to our hotel (wait for wife and daughter to pee and fix makeup)and get back to 30 Rock. Would I have hid a $10 knife in the bushes, YES.... if it were gone when I can out so what, if it were still there all the better.
I think we get use to being armed and forget 99.9% of the time everything is just fine!
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Lots of people live there and don't get killed. They can't get EVERYBODY, can they?
Personally I'd try to avoid the city out of principle. Any city that bans 32oz soft drinks for its citizens doesn't deserve tourist tax money, IMHO.
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Glad you enjoyed NYC - it's not for me or mine though
Wasp spray is excellent to use for safety, don't think blumberger has banned that yet. NYC is fun, glad you and your family had such a good time. We haven't been since the late 90's. Without going off on a political rant, just gonna say I'm not going back any time soon until some things change from DC to NY.
Hey, the Carolina are great for vacationing. Outer Banks, Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Charlotte (NASCAR), Asheville (aka Hashville), and if you want some secluded places, take a sailing trip off of Oriental, NC to the lighthouses. I can't think of any reason to go anywhere out of either of the Carolinas!
I would probably get arrested for drinking out of a high capacity soft drink container. I do not wish to give my money in any way shape or form to New York.
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I would not go to NYC on a bet.
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I'm glad you were able to enjoy NYC and share about it here...I'll never experience any of that.
I wouldn't step foot in NY on a bet, on a paid vacation, on a being the winner of a 'free trip', or for any other reason.
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The people from NY & NJ in the LGS (vacationing at the beach here) have this glazed eyeball look they are so excited to find ammo. I do talk to them asking why they don't vote these numbskulls out that take away their 2nd amendment rights and they all have told me that there are too many liberals there. My heart goes out to these find folks that just want to do what they have every right to do under our constitution. It baffles me as to how the politicians can pull the rug out from under them. How can they take away the citizens constitutional rights, I really don't understand ~ this is not anything to be voted on, it is a American right???!
Such a shame, NYC is an exciting place to visit with wonderful food. The liberals/politicians are cutting off their noses to spite their face. God will get them!!!!!!
I can see Colorado, or Florida, or the Grand Canyon, or just about any place else in the United States....but New York for vacation?
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I'll take a contrary position.
I grew up across the river from NYC, in a then-rural part of NJ in the lower Hudson valley (50s and 60s). Annual trips into the city with the family - usually around Christmas - were a huge annual deal. In high school, going into the city without parental escort was a rite of passage.
Fast forward to my college days, I was living in CT and only hit NYC to see my sister who worked there at the time. By then (early 70s), crime and filth of all sorts had invaded Manhattan and you had to be careful where you went after sundown. For close to two decades, I avoided NYC because of the crime rate and overriding lack of personal security. Only the poorest of the poor used buses and subways were criminal enterprise zones - this was the Bernie Goetz era.
By the early 90s I had two sons and the proximity of things like the Bronx Zoo, the Museum of Natural History, Broadway, the Guggenheim and the Statue of Liberty beckoned. It took some personal convincing, but starting out with a church group on a Sunday cathedral expedition pushed me over the edge. My family started exploring the Big Apple with occasional trips. By the time the boys were old enough to head there on their own, we had made dozens of trips there and returned home unscathed.
My point is that New York City is unquestionably home to a large number of weird people, and crime occurs, but it's not like you're gambling your life by going there. In comparison, Washington, DC is a fraction of the size but the incidence of violent crime there and in surrounding areas is substantially higher. Would you avoid a trip to Arlington National Cemetery, the Lincoln Memorial and the Smithsonian Institution because you can't go there armed? I certainly hope not.
I'm not defending New York City at all, I'm just trying to put things into perspective. I never ventured into known bad neighborhoods day or night, and I generally kept to areas with a lot of pedestrian traffic. Sure, I missed having a sidearm, but I think those who rule NYC off-limits due to a perceived high level of personal risk are depriving themselves of some worthwhile experiences.
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Ive been to NY City. Didnt see anything there I liked then, darn sure I wouldnt go back on a bet.
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I've been there twice for work many years ago. One trip involved driving on the freeway for a prolonged period of time. Nothing but multi-family buildings stacked on top of one another without end. Nothing there for me.
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations” – James Madison 1788
Glad you had a great time on your family vacation . Hopefully next year you can come to Baltimore and spend some money . Since i have gotten more into 2A and carrying i will spend my money in places that welcome me as i am, also trust me to be a good visitor who only takes away a good time and memories . But one thing i agree with you is to make great times with your family .
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Keep your booger hook off the bang switch until you want to destroy something .
I took a trip there shortly after college to visit a friend. He wanted to show off "his" city. We went everywhere. Did all of the tourist stuff and much of the things only locals know about. One afternoon we were taking a break in Central Park. He ask what i though of the city. I wanted to be honest but I also didn't want to be rude to my friend and host.
It was lame but all I could come up with was, "Nice park!"
NYC is an interesting place for about a day. I can live my life without going back.
*WARNING - I may or may not know what I am talking about.