Am I doing IWB wrong? Trouble drawing.
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I purchased ...
July 24th, 2013 05:46 PM
Am I doing IWB wrong? Trouble drawing.
Hola - I am new to CC. I have a 9mm XDS and having trouble figuring out the best way to wear it.
I purchased a holster from Aegis Armory and it seems to be high quality and is pretty comfortable to wear considering this is the first time I've worn anything like this.
However my issue is drawing from the holster. Looking at the design, it is similar to other IWB holsters so I figure it is something I am doing wrong not a design issue.
I basically can't pull the firearm out of the holster without holding my belt down with my other hand. If I wear my belt loose so the gun is less tight in the holster I pull the belt up.
If I wear my belt uncomfortably tight I can get the gun out without pulling up the holster every once in a few draws.
Is this an "I need more practice" issue or should I be looking at another holster? Any advice otherwise?
July 24th, 2013 05:50 PM
Gun belt. Your normal belt isn't going to work well even with a great holster. It's got to be allot stiffer than you're used to wearing.
There are dozens of good ones for just about any price you want to pay, and I'm sure the board has some suggestions.
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July 24th, 2013 06:02 PM
I agree with getting a good gun belt. They are more sturdy and shouldn't have as much give on the draw.
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July 24th, 2013 06:06 PM
+3 for the gun belt. It is stiffer than a regular belt and made for carrying a holster. It will also keep your pants up. Once you get a good belt (Galco Instructor's belt $50+/- available from Optics Planet a sponsor here is what I use) you'll see.
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July 24th, 2013 06:22 PM
That sounds too easy! Thanks I will pick up a belt and go from there.
July 24th, 2013 06:34 PM
Having a quality belt worn 'snuggly' is extremely important, but you also need a quality holster with a cant (if you're wearing it past 3:00)IMHO.
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July 24th, 2013 06:41 PM
I agree with a good, purpose made belt.
Also, play around with location, and angle of cant.
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July 24th, 2013 06:44 PM
Definitely. I hated mine at first but give it time to break in. Wear it every day and use some good leather conditioner. A good belt is a must.
Originally Posted by Jaeger
July 24th, 2013 06:48 PM
They said it, gun belt. Not a leather fan, got a 5.11 nylon belt @ Bass Pro w/ NO holes so you fit it to where you want it.
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July 24th, 2013 07:21 PM
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July 24th, 2013 07:26 PM
This points to a holster that is (a) holding your sidearm very well; (b) a holster in which the design cannot withstand being cinched down inside of a belt.
Originally Posted by scoxnl
Uncertain what specific belt you have, but IMO certainly you should have a decent "gun" belt that's suitable to carrying the load of a holstered sidearm. It helps keep things positioned, distributes the load of the gun across the hips, firmly holds the holster in place.
But you also need to ensure the holster you've got isn't crushable by the belt. If the mouth of the holster, specifically, is getting smooshed to the point the gun becomes impossible to draw, then IMO your holster isn't quite up to snuff. Might look good, might be otherwise well-made, but its design allows for crushing in such a situation. Bad for drawing, even worse for attempting to reholster. An OWB holster, of course, doesn't have to worry about maintaining shape during the draw/reholster activities, though it certainly has to have excellent retaining of the sidearm to avoid unwanted removal during activities. Same with an IWB, but additionally an IWB holster needs to be designed in such a way as to withstand the pressures the belt is going to place upon it.
So. Certainly, if you only have a current generic, everyday belt, consider a quality belt of the sort suitable for heavier holstered guns. But, by all means, also review the holster's design in terms of its ability to retain shape when you mount it on the belt as designed. As Red Nichols points out in another recent thread, a great holster should be capable of working well with most any belt, certainly with respect to retaining shape. But a better belt will help your overall carrying do its job better, keeping things in place, better supporting heavier loads, distributing the loads, avoiding "hot" spots (pinching, pains), and avoiding the need to cinch down to within an inch of crushing your holster and failing to breathe.
If still concerned about what to look for, in a belt and/or holster, welcome to the club. For those of us who aren't holster designers extraordinaire, some of the design features that matter, and the reasons they matter, aren't always immediately clear. Though, performance in the field with daily use filters out a lot of the junk, for all the basic reasons marginal holster designs are what they are.
BTW, for a decent IWB holster that should do you very well, consider the Milt Sparks Versa Max II IWB holster. Many have been sold over the years, and it's a perennial favorite. Decent design and quality. With a suitable belt, it should never have the issues you're describing. (Of course, the MS VMII will take some time to order/acquire, in high demand that it is.)
July 24th, 2013 08:51 PM
Not familiar with the Aegis Armory brand of holsters, but what you describe reminds me of my soft collapsible holster I used for the first 6 months. If you're not using a hardshell type holster that maintains it's shape and size inside your waistband, whether your firearm is in it or not, then what you're experiencing is to be expected. I now use (for 3.5 years) a Crossbreed Supertuck, but there are several other similar "hardshell" IWB's out there.
This allows one-handed drawing, AND reholstering. It also allows you to tighten the belt as tight as your preference. I CC a Ruger P95, old school bulky & heavy, almost 2 lbs. loaded, & can tighten the belt 1 extra hole to support the weight without affecting the holster functions. With my soft holster, I would have to undo my belt and pants waist band in order to reholster, requiring both hands. If you're using a soft holster, I'd say that's 95% of your problem, belt only 5% in terms of your drawing & re-holstering problems. A good belt is always recommended, but that alone will not solve your soft holster issues.
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July 24th, 2013 08:56 PM
Also could be the holster needs further breaking in.
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July 24th, 2013 09:29 PM
This is my thought too. What model holster are you using? I just read where ageis says no breaking needed for their hybrid model , however either it does need break in or the holster is made wrong. What gun are you using? Pics of the gun in the holster may help too.
Originally Posted by maxwell97
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July 24th, 2013 09:41 PM
Good advice here. Personally, I like a firm holster around a firm trigger on a firm belt.
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