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Okay I'm going on vacation again this fall thru the Rockies; however this time I am planning to CCW. What concerns me is I would like to visit Little Big Horn and several other sites that might require me to drive roads that go thru Tribal lands. Will be vacationing in SD,WY,MT,UT,CO, AZ,NM, and Texas. Any advise on CCW travel thru these area's would be appreciated.
Concerning tribal lands...you can drive thru, just don't stop for any reason.
The rest of your questions about individual states can be answered in Mike1956's post (above)
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Enjoy the trip but be very careful on tribal lands. State laws do not cover tribal lands within any state.
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Follow the advice already given.
I will add though, my CCW instructor did get pulled over once on reservation land out west. His firearm was confiscated, and he was required to show up in their court over a month away to get it back. Needless to say, he let them keep it.
First thing to remember, Tribal Lands are not part of the state they are in, they are their own entity, states laws do not apply. Very few tribes allow for CCW and very few allow for you to have a loaded firearm in your vehicle. So if you are stopped on tribal lands with a loaded firearm, expect it to go away. Yes, they will seize your firearm, or you will go to jail and they will keep your firearm anyway. So, the best for travel through them is to keep the firearm, locked in the trunk with the ammo in a separate locked container.
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I think it might be wise to contact Tribal authorities in each sovereign tribal land. Explain what you'll be doing & how should you handle carrying your legal firearm. Locked unloaded in a safe or trunk out of reach of the driver & passengers? This will probably have to be accomplished before you get to the boundary of the reservation. Explain that you're licensed to carry in the rest of the state. I doubt if any tribal police will have a problem if you handle your firearm the same way you would if you were going through a state where you're not licensed to carry if you're allowed to transport a firearm through tribal land.
It's possible that the Bureau of Indian Affairs could get you the contact information hopefully with names & phone numbers.
Make sure you get the names of the authorities you talk to & carry them with you.
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Here in Washington, we have many Indian Nations, each one of which has different rules. Their laws range from honoring Washington States' laws to carry of a loaded firearm being completely illegal. To answer your question, you are going to have to investigate each Nation's laws individually, in addition to each state.
My understanding is that the roads themselves, ie US Hwys, and Interstates ect. are themselves not under the jurisdiction of the tribes.
As retsupt99 already stated it is fine to drive on them with your gun and permit assuming the state you are in honors your permit.
Do not leave the road, stop for gas, eat lunch or anything off of the federal or state controlled road or you can get yourself into deep trouble.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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Wow, I hadn't thought about this -- and living in New Mexico, it's an issue for most travel! I found the following summary, which to this layman seems pretty good: http://shootingdentist.com/index.php...a-gun-dentist/
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Not only that, all of the reservations that I know of in ND, SD, MT are VERY high crime areas. Lots of drugs and violent crime.
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Tribal lands have different laws then the state that is true. In New Mexico though the main highway going through trial land is state property. Just stay on the highway do not pull into gas stations or any other business. Just having a gun in your car could cause problems if it were noticed.
OK fact for Az if you go onto Navajo land weapon must in lock box and you must have proof of purchase if you do not do this your weapon is taken and never seen again. Any tribal land you go onto check to see what there regs are when on there land and you brake there law you can be held or told to return for court date. Spent 17yrs working in central and northern Az. law enforcement and tribal casino security training officer.
Never thought about it being here in PA. But when I was stationed in Nevada I do remember that they have very strict rules and punishments. I would personally contact the tribal police for the areas you are going through and ask them directly. Make sure you get names of those you talk to.
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