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    Did not see the sign

    Today I made a mistake many of you more experienced folks would not have made. I am new to concealed carry and for the first time carried my LC9 with me to the mall. Upon approaching one of the large department store entrances I carefully looked for any signs designating the mall or store to be a gun-free area. Seeing none I walked on in. I met my son who works at the mall, and he noticed my Sneaky Pete holster. He also told me firearms are not allowed in the mall. I told I had checked before entering and he said check again. This time I went to the mall entrance (not a store entrance) and there it was - posted no firearms. I walked clear around the mall to return to my car without going back into the mall.

    So my lesson learned is to check the "official" entrance - not the side stores entrances.


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    Or just stay out of malls. Not too much in any of them I want. Last I checked no LGS in a mall.

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    If a customer enters the mall through an unposted portal, and there are no other signs decreeing no weapons inside the mall, how is a person to know?
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    Don't feel bad, I don't see those signs all the time.

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    I have never seen a no firearms sign in a mall... Granted, I always enter through Sears since there is never a crowd at the front of the parking lot there...

    Why would I enter through a "main mall entrance" when I can get up front parking at an anchor store?

    I figure that if a mall wants to restrict firearms they need to place signs conspicuously at every entry, not just the convenient ones...
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    This has happened to me as well. I was at the mall of America a few months ago and there were no signs on the door I entered. Once I reached one of the main walkways of a mall there was a large sign saying no guns allowed. Went back another time, (this time without gun), went through the same entrance, but this time there was no signs anywhere saying no firearms. Not sure if this was a policy change or what. I figure if you are doing a good job concealing it, don't stress too much, especially if the entrance you came in was not posted. Just my .02 though.
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    In Florida, you cannot CC at a "professional athletic event." I've attended several non-sporting events at the BB&T Arena which has a "no guns/weapons by law" sign posted at the entrance. Since it is not a "professional athletic event" being held, technically the arena is not prohibited by law--but the metal detectors and guys with wanes would surely pick up on a CW and get you turned back at the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenncvol View Post
    Today I made a mistake many of you more experienced folks would not have made. I am new to concealed carry and for the first time carried my LC9 with me to the mall. Upon approaching one of the large department store entrances I carefully looked for any signs designating the mall or store to be a gun-free area. Seeing none I walked on in. I met my son who works at the mall, and he noticed my Sneaky Pete holster. He also told me firearms are not allowed in the mall. I told I had checked before entering and he said check again. This time I went to the mall entrance (not a store entrance) and there it was - posted no firearms. I walked clear around the mall to return to my car without going back into the mall.

    So my lesson learned is to check the "official" entrance - not the side stores entrances.
    Not being a fan of victim-disarmament zones, I simply disregard them where it's legal. No disrespect intended, me carrying just isn't your buisnes to allow or deny.
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    Check Handgunlaw.us for TN. It appears they are not properly posted if no signs at each entrance to the mall.

    Notice of such prohibition shall be posted in prominent locations, including all entrances primarily used by persons entering the building, portion of the building or buildings where weapon possession is prohibited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    In Florida, you cannot CC at a "professional athletic event." I've attended several non-sporting events at the BB&T Arena which has a "no guns/weapons by law" sign posted at the entrance. Since it is not a "professional athletic event" being held, technically the arena is not prohibited by law--but the metal detectors and guys with wanes would surely pick up on a CW and get you turned back at the door.


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    I've been watching to just see who has signs and see what they look like.So far,i've seen three places that has no gun signs,and only one of them has the legal size,correct wording,etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgusty View Post
    This has happened to me as well. I was at the mall of America a few months ago and there were no signs on the door I entered. Once I reached one of the main walkways of a mall there was a large sign saying no guns allowed. Went back another time, (this time without gun), went through the same entrance, but this time there was no signs anywhere saying no firearms. Not sure if this was a policy change or what. I figure if you are doing a good job concealing it, don't stress too much, especially if the entrance you came in was not posted. Just my .02 though.
    I don't carry on my infrequent trips there. Normally malls don't concern me too much, but that particular one has a ton of security, actual police, and (as I understand it) its own detention cells. Kind of a different level from the average mall.

    Not that I think they'd lock you up just for carrying, but they tend to enforce the rules with a bit of proactiveness, and I'm sure if I were somehow spotted I'd be escorted out. Which there means about a half-mile jaunt to the correct six-level parking ramp, tormented by the sight of all the wonderful shops and attractions from which I find myself suddenly exiled.

    To be fair, they do a good job there. Way back they had some serious issues with "misguided youth" tussling frequently, and they cleaned it up admirably.
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    Huge difference between "company policy", and "illegal under State law". In Indiana, the mall can ask you to leave, but there is no criminality involved, unless you refuse to leave. I carry concealed... no problem.... I've NEVER been asked to leave any property.

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    If they don't see it, it isn't there. Areas with metal detectors, and areas with severe legal sanctions such as airports, schools, federal, state, and county buildings, and military bases should always be respected. Even in states, like AZ, with potential criminal charges related to carrying in posted areas that don't fall into the aforementioned categories, the typical response would be to ask someone to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoveman View Post
    Unless you were packing a Glock 7.....
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