Should I carry even though employer says no?

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    Should I carry even though employer says no?

    Maybe this has been covered already. If so, just link me to the thread.

    But my employer has a policy that concealed weapons are not allowed for employees. Probably no different than most other employers. The problem is due to the nature of my job, I regularly deal with some hinky and unstable folks. Case in point, a man shot and killed his girlfriend then shot and killed himself afterwards. I had just been to the home several days before and had met the woman. I never had any bad feelings when I was there, but after I found out about the shooting, it really shook me up. I mean I had just been there a few days ago! What if the guy decided to do the shooting while I was there?

    So I'm looking for advice on whether I should go against company policy and carry while at work and risk the consequences or whether I should play it safe and hope I never get in a bad situation. Sometimes I think I could find a new job a lot easier that I could find a new life. Then other times I think that it's stupid to jeopardize my career over this. I'm definitely interested in hearing thoughts and advice.

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    I'd ask your employer's HR department this question.
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    I really depends what happens if you get caught. I would assume you will be fired. Can you easily get another job?
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    Sure go ahead.
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    It's a dice roll for sure. Personally I wouldn't risk my career because I wanted to carry at work, but I've admittedly never worked in an environment that I felt was inherently dangerous. Are non-lethal options also banned? If not, I'd probably opt for a big canister of OC. Then you would have some potential way to disengage from violent action and you wouldn't be risking your career.

    The bottom line basically is what you believe is best for you. If you really feel that the threat of a violent act against you is that great, then you gotta decide what's more important; the job or your ability to defend yourself with a firearm. The only thing to keep in mind is that if you choose to disregard the policy, you will probably lose your job and quite possibly ruin your career potential in that field...
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    Only you can answer the question. Is it just you or is there a spouse and children depending on you? With most employers, it is an immediate firing offense. What would you do if the employer fired you this minute and escorted you to the door? I worked one job where I received weekly death threats and had to press charges against people in criminal and civil court. It was against policy to carry so I didn't. I had the sheriff and city police on speed dial. If I felt threatened, I had law enforcement meet me at the sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympus View Post
    Maybe this has been covered already. If so, just link me to the thread.

    But my employer has a policy that concealed weapons are not allowed for employees. Probably no different than most other employers. The problem is due to the nature of my job, I regularly deal with some hinky and unstable folks. Case in point, a man shot and killed his girlfriend then shot and killed himself afterwards. I had just been to the home several days before and had met the woman. I never had any bad feelings when I was there, but after I found out about the shooting, it really shook me up. I mean I had just been there a few days ago! What if the guy decided to do the shooting while I was there?

    So I'm looking for advice on whether I should go against company policy and carry while at work and risk the consequences or whether I should play it safe and hope I never get in a bad situation. Sometimes I think I could find a new job a lot easier that I could find a new life. Then other times I think that it's stupid to jeopardize my career over this. I'm definitely interested in hearing thoughts and advice.
    No, of course not, you're not in a war zone, you have an incredibly small chance anywhere of needing a gun - in less of some unusual highly dangerous area with constant murders or something; keep some perspective; do you sleep with a fire-hose just in case? Why would you risk your employment to buck your employers policy against CCW. We Carry so if a very unlikely but fatal event should happen to us we have a possible way of saving our lives. That is not like invading Normandy.
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    I'd get a Ruger LCP and put it in a belly band. Nobody will EVER know you have it. Keep your mouth shut and your gun deeply hidden. Will you ever need it? Probably not, but that argument can be made for carrying PERIOD, not just while at work. No man, woman, or H/R lawyer dictates to me how or when I choose to be able to defend my life.
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    It sounds like maybe you have a government job. In which case, I wouldn't risk it. Not sure if pepper spray falls into that category of a concealed weapon, but you might want to consider that.

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    I don't know about the legal side of this and employer policy aside, from the situation you describe it sounds like you are going into other people's homes as a part of your job. If someone carries a gun into my home courtesy dictates they ask my permission. If they don't ask my permission and I find out after the fact I'm not going to be a happy camper. My unhappiness is likely to reflect poorly on them and by extension their employer. That might be one of the considerations driving your employer's policy.

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    I can't carry at work either (law not policy). My work doesn't put me in contact with more than the usual amount of "flakes" though. I decided long ago that my ability to continue in my chosen career out weighed carrying a firearm while at work.

    I do carry other tools every day. These include OC, a high-lumen flashlight and a knife. Not the least of my tools is a high level of awareness of the potential for violence in any given situation.

    Carrying contrary to policy is your choice. Just be prepared for the consequences if your are discovered. If you choose to not carry, keep your head screwed on tight and don't be afraid to just walk away if your "Spidey-sense" starts to tingle.
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    You have not said what your job is, how it is that you came to meet the BG you wrote of.

    If you are going about your job away from your office, you could possibly CC without your employer ever being aware of it
    unless you were unfortunately involved in an altercation /or shooting in which cops were called.

    So let's say you have a home base office. Don't bring the gun in there. But when you go out to see a client, have it in the car
    if that is possible-- like, your employer isn't somehow snooping in your car. Put it on your person when you go to see a client. Use something like the LCP which is highly concealable.

    Your job won't mean much to your family if you are dead or permanently injured.

    Now, that possibility brings up whether or not you really want to stay in a job that exposes you to a level of danger where you feel you should carry. That's a very tough and personal choice.

    The common parallel universe example is the pizza delivery guy. They always get fired for
    carrying, but what are they supposed to do when delivering to protect themselves? Others in your situation include
    people who do social work, deliver mail, install or repair things at the the homes of clients--- some of whom you really don't
    want to become acquainted with.

    Only two choices. Get a safer job or do what needs to be done in the most clandestine manner you can without
    a significant risk of losing your job.

    And, if there is something about your job that makes carrying illegal, not just an employer's policy, don't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRunner71 View Post
    I can't carry at work either (law not policy). My work doesn't put me in contact with more than the usual amount of "flakes" though. I decided long ago that my ability to continue in my chosen career out weighed carrying a firearm while at work.

    I do carry other tools every day. These include OC, a high-lumen flashlight and a knife. Not the least of my tools is a high level of awareness of the potential for violence in any given situation.

    Carrying contrary to policy is your choice. Just be prepared for the consequences if your are discovered. If you choose to not carry, keep your head screwed on tight and don't be afraid to just walk away if your "Spidey-sense" starts to tingle.
    Part in bold is a key item to be evaluated by the OP before he makes a decision.
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    I know many companies have a policy against guns on their own property, but I've never heard of it covering other locations you might visit as part of your job, which sounds like a not-uncommon occurrence for you. Personally, I believe that such a policy is even more irresponsible - it's bad enough to ban self-defense in an office building with minimal security, but when you're out and about with no security at all?

    I wouldn't give advice one way or the other, but I agree that a non-lethal option may be a viable alternative.
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