IL Concealed Carry Inc closing it's doors
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December 6th, 2006 10:44 AM
IL Concealed Carry Inc closing it's doors
This is very sad for the gun owners of IL. John Birch is closing the doors of Concealed Carry Inc. He has been beaten down by the hard fought fight, to no avail.
I hope that his move to FL will give him the peace he so deserves. He will enjoy being able to finally strap that gun on everyday and walking around a free man!
You can read his final goodbyes here:
Concealed Carry, Inc. Closes Doors For Good
December 5th, 2006
Fellow subjects of the State of Illinois:
Greeting and salutations.
Pending the filing of a final tax return, and the turning in of our BATF records, Concealed Carry, Inc. is closed for business.
When Concealed Carry, Inc. started in November of 1997 I was truly a ball of fire, and convinced if one applied reason to the gun control debate, then concealed carry would logically follow in Illinois.
To drive home our point we had a lot of fun with transporting weapons in fanny packs to Taste of Chicago and our one hand gun a month give-a-way to Chicago residents was a hoot that made it all the way over to the BBC. Not bad for corporation with zero assets and that maintained a cash account of never more than $400.
Still the bottom line is we needed to make our case not in Illinois, as that has been pretty much accomplished, but rather in Cook County. We failed.
The Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence probably has more paid staff than members (in fact, if you go to their web site there is no way to join the ICHV,) yet they see the playing field clearly. Maintaining an office in both Chicago and Springfield they cozy up to the right people and like magic, they get their way. By contrast the Illinois State Rifle Association has perhaps 12,000 members or so, but is considered a "nutty uncle on loose" in Springfield and is headquartered in Chatsworth, IL (Never heard of it? Surprise.)
I suspect the reason for the legislative success of gun control in Illinois is that the ICHV is backed by big liberal money, like the Pritzker fortune, with fulltime hired guns, who know how to play hard ball with a state representative when they need "reminding." (Okay, my hat is off to ICHV Exec Director Thom Mannard. You outwitted, outlasted and outplayed.) Meanwhile ISRA members are content to just be allowed to plink at a range, or shoot a rabbit to skin and put in the pot for dinner.
My prognostication is that a major effort to ban the possession (not purchase) of all semi-auto’s is next. I will go further and tell you it might be best thing to happen to gun owners in Illinois. Let me give an example from history.
Hitler put Jews in concentration camps, a bad thing in itself, but ultimately forgivable and recompensable. Witness the Japanese incarceration in the USA for an example. Where Hitler made any hope of being forgiven by humanity unthinkable was in making the camps extermination facilities.
Well creating 1,500,000 instant felons in the State of Illinois with the stroke of Governor Blagojevich’s pen just might be the thing to finally galvanize Illinois gun owners. Not to mention there are an awful lot of closet gun owners in Cook County. They would admit to being gay to their wife before letting the cops know they have a gun, such is the fear of the police. Why not ramp the terror up a notch, eh?
In any case we know that playing defense in Springfield does not work. Stopping a gun control bill, and calling that a victory, is to recall the British repulsing the opening attacks in the movie Zulu, wherein the Red Coats were gleeful in victory. The end of the movie is a bit less jovial. As will be the end in Illinois.
We also know that sending money to gun rights organizations doesn’t work. But feel free to send that money anyway so you can feel like “you are doing something to protect your rights in Illinois.” I’ll have a bit of laugh as you do, but it will be a friendly laugh with a knowing wink and a nod.
For those of you who say the press is out to get us, I say NONSENSE. I have dealt with virtually every major news organization in the USA and certainly every credible media outlet in Illinois. I have always got a fair shake in the press. You just have to give the press a story. The anti-gunners are just plain better at doing that than gun owners. They bring heart rendering emotion to the debate, we bring facts and figures. One picture of a dead boy with a grieving mother beats a 1,000 John Lott’s.
As for me I am going to Pensacola on Thursday to finalize a land transfer and will be changing my state of residence in the near future. As good friend Ron Bond says: “I won’t go anywhere my gun isn’t welcome.”
Now, I have just broken my rule not to name names of the good subjects who have helped out over the years. You know if I do I’ll forget a half dozen of you, and only create bitterness. You know who you are. Your reward is the same as mine for you efforts: NOTHING.
PS: I’ll keep my email address going for a while longer. email@example.com
PSS: Check out http://icarry.org/
Member of the National Rifle Association's Board of Directors
ssociation Central OH Chair
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December 6th, 2006 10:44 AM
December 6th, 2006 04:36 PM
It's sad that this state has forced another good gun owner out. As Mr. Birch mentioned in the closing of his letter, http://icarry.org is a good website to check out if you're interested in helping Illinois gun owners continue the fight.
Hopefully someday Mr. Birch will be able to come back for a visit AND bring his guns with him.
December 6th, 2006 05:47 PM
Sad Day For IL...
Good day for FL...
Welcome Mr. Birch...you'll enjoy Florida...
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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NRA Life Member
December 6th, 2006 07:21 PM
That's a shame. :( Best of luck to Mr. Birch in his future endeavors in a gun-friendly state!
December 6th, 2006 08:10 PM
With sadness I can say that one part of his letter rings very true to me. It seems that many (most?) hunters and long-gun sport shooters don't feel threatened by the antis, take their status for granted, and have little interest in the plight of those advocating carry. There are millions in this apathetic category.
If only that sleeping giant could be mobilized, I assure you that we would have national carry.
"It's a big gun when I carry it, it is also a big gun when I take it out” – Clint Smith
December 6th, 2006 08:51 PM
That's a touching and well-written letter by Mr. Birch. I salute him.
Originally Posted by ElMonoDelMar
His sadness and his cynicism about the future of Illinois are shared by me and many others even though we've never even been there.
I have to say that when you mentioned continuing the fight, my impulse is to say, NO, DON'T continue the fight. Let that sad-sack of a state turn into an anti-gun mecca, let the crime and the murders continue, let us ALL see how PATHETICALLY WRONG the anti-gun morons are, when they finally ban all the guns and still the criminals will have them and use them freely against an unarmed populace. Maybe then we will really truly have what we need to show everyone about the abject idiotic failure that gun control is and always will be.
Let the place eat itself alive and it will provide a great object lesson and "See, we told you so!" snipe at the antis. They deserve what will happen, and it will happen.
Welcome to Florida, Mr. Birch. Let's you, me and the rest of us try to do some good from here instead.
Last edited by peacefuljeffrey; December 6th, 2006 at 11:49 PM.
December 6th, 2006 09:20 PM
gunssavelife.org/com should still be up
December 7th, 2006 12:13 PM
It's only a matter of time until Illinois is completely worse than any other state in the Union in terms of anti-gun laws (it is still one of two states where there is NO provsion for private citizen concealed carry). Last year they almost passed a bill that would have outlawed muzzle loaders, shotguns and driven semi auto rifle manufacturers out of the state.
It's a pity really, considering all the other good things the state has
going for it. I guess the same could be said for California.
December 7th, 2006 12:36 PM
Utlra liberal hold outs like IL, much of NY, and others will have to wait until the end of the fight. The fight is going much better nationally state by state than those of us behind enemy lines realize (I am in NY). Win over all but a handful of states, regain control of the government with real conservatives who will owe the 2A crowd for putting them in there, and then push for national recognition of CCW, Constructionist Judges, National CCW or other items pushed from the 2A lobby. Simply overrule the states that fail to recognize rights granted elsewhere by virtue of the 14th Ammendment.
Only once the fight is won everywhere else will the remaining hold out states be dragged out of oppresion.
December 7th, 2006 12:45 PM
If Illinois is lost, the anti's won't stop there. The increase in gun crime will be due to all the guns that people buy in Indiana. Don't believe me? Look at the excuse they give for all the gun crime in DC!
December 7th, 2006 12:58 PM
Im keeping my money out of Illinois.......
"Ray Nagin is a colossal disappointment" - NRA/ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox.
"...be water, my friend."
December 7th, 2006 03:10 PM
I might too, but I love Springfield Armory products too damned much...
Originally Posted by dimmak
December 7th, 2006 07:39 PM
I won't live in a place where I can't carry and protect myself. I have service buddies who live in Chicago and we talk often but you know what I doubt I will ever make the trip up. Why, because I can't carry.
Listen, Think and React.....Nuff Said.....
December 7th, 2006 10:49 PM
That's too bad, he led a good fight anyway. He can be proud of that....
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.
December 7th, 2006 11:48 PM
Escaped IL for the Air Force...now in the Land of Free....the Commonwealth of Virginia....
My parents are getting ready to leave IL for NC....My dad is still kinda freaked out by VA's open carry law (no papers?).
Mr Birch's note is spot on when talking about IL gun owners--hunters and plinkers who are content to be able to fire a gun, but won' thelp themselves when it comes to self-defense. The years of brain-washing by the liberal/socialist/left have been successful...
IL is in a downward spiral...just like when you flush a toilet.....and it's epicenter is Chicago....
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