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    CHICAGO — Four people were shot Friday in a downtown Chicago skyscraper that also houses a commuter train station, sending people running from the office tower and stranding commuters, authorities said.

    I don't understand how this can be. Doesn't the criminal know it's illegal to have a gun in Chicago? Perhaps he didn't get the memo.

    For the full story:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,235623,00.html
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    Baaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa.
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    CHICAGO Four people were shot Friday in a downtown Chicago skyscraper that also houses a commuter train station, sending people running from the office tower and stranding commuters, authorities said.

    Police spokesman Pat Camden said the situation is secure.
    Yeah, of course it is. And it will be, right up until the time of the very next such incident.

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    Gun control laws - Providing a safe working environment for all criminals.

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    Chicago Shooting Reported on AP Today

    http://home.bellsouth.net/s/editoria...&rg=blsadstrgt

    3 Dead in Chicago Skyscraper Shooting

    Published: 12/8/06, 7:45 PM EDT
    By CARLA K. JOHNSON

    CHICAGO (AP) - A gunman in a downtown skyscraper shot four people Friday, killing two of them, and took a hostage before being killed after police fired at him, authorities said.
    The shootings in the top floor of the 38-story Citigroup Center, which also houses a train station, sent office workers running from the building and stranded rush-hour commuters.
    The gunman, armed with a snub-nose revolver, knife and hammer, shot the four victims over "several minutes," police Superintendent Phil Cline said.
    He was holding the hostage when police shot at him, but "before the offender died, he may have also shot himself," Cline said. Police said they won't know for sure until an autopsy is performed.
    Cindy Penzick, secretary in a law firm on the 37th floor, said that after a co-worker told her she heard gunshots, a police officer with his gun drawn on their floor yelled at them to get out.
    Penzick said she is usually calm, "But I have to tell you this was scary as hell."
    People hurried down the escalators and ran from the skyscraper on the west side of downtown. Dozens of police cars and two fire trucks were in front of the building, where one person was seen being loaded onto an ambulance.
    Keegan Greene, who works at Verizon Wireless on the first floor, was helping a customer when fire alarms began going off.
    "One of the security guards came up to us and started saying, "Run, run, run, run, run!" Greene said.
    Service on the Metra commuter line was suspended for more than an hour and area buses were diverted while the incident unfolded. Metra spokeswoman Judy Pardonnet said all Metra crew members had been locked into secure areas before train service resumed just after 5 p.m.
    Many commuters who had planned to board trains were milling around in the cold, trying to figure out how they would get home.
    Kirstin Kostuchowski, 19, said she was sitting in a cafe waiting to board a train for Elburn when an announcement over the loudspeaker advised all passengers on trains to stay in their seats, and everybody else to leave the building.
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    Associated Press writers Don Babwin, Deanna Bellandi and Dave Carpenter contributed to this report.




    I thought there weren't any firearms in Chicago...aren't they banned by law?

    I wish the press would stop counting the perpetrator in the number of the slain in the headlines...somehow I don't believe they deserve mention in the same sentence as innocent victims.

    My condolences to the family and friends of those who perished in this tragedy, and prayers for speedy and full recovery for the injured.

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    yes, that is the truth! Gun control only effects law abiding citizens and not the criminals who by definition live outside the law.

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    I live right across the river from Illinois. Got family over there and it gets my goat everytime i have to pull over before crossing the bridge to lock up my gun. Guess the mob ruined it for them........

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    Does it ever get to the point where you just want to slam your head against a wall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    Does it ever get to the point where you just want to slam your head against a wall?
    Nah, I just wrap my head with duct tape to keep it from exploding...and wrap...and wrap...and wrap... (with apologies to Glenn Beck).

    BTW, sorry I didn't catch the thread that was already up...I didn't use the right search term.

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    Weren't we just talking yesterday in another thread about Chicago, and I voiced the opinion that I hope Chicago (Illinois incl.) sees more and more and more of this -- because it is what that place deserves due to its wrongheaded, ignorant, idiotic insistence on gun control as a solution to violence.

    Maybe if enough innocents die while in the supposedly "safe" state of being disarmed, people there will smarten the *(#& up and realize that they've been lied to -- that it never was safer to be DISarmed than it was to be ARMED. And maybe then they will demand their right to be armed back.

    Until then, I'm not gonna cry terribly when people who knowingly come and go and do their business in victim-disarmament/criminal-protection zones die in these kinds of slaughters. *** do they think is going to happen in a place where the armed criminal goes in knowing that no one is armed to stop him, and the police are at least 5-10 minutes away, down the stairs and elevators and on the street?

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    Chicago, Washington DC, schools, and any other area off limits to law abiding CCW holders are called defenseless victims zones where criminals know they will have no opposition and they are the only ones armed.
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    The gun banners just can't seem to ever get the message that the bad guys don't care about their stupid "no gun" laws.
    "To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    The gun banners just can't seem to ever get the message that the bad guys don't care about their stupid "no gun" laws.
    Yep!

    Silly will they ever wake up
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    They are reporting that security escorted him up to the 37th floor where he committed the murders.

    Personally, I want to know what kind of envelope can conceal a revolver, a knife and a hammer! I'm going to start making holsters out of envelopes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robere View Post
    I live right across the river from Illinois. Got family over there and it gets my goat everytime i have to pull over before crossing the bridge to lock up my gun. Guess the mob ruined it for them........


    Geez, that would piss me off- I get ticked because I have to do the same just to go into the post office, but to have to do it just to drive into the city would really suck.

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