One in the pipe
This is a discussion on One in the pipe within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; In another thread it is polled wether most carry with one in the pipe or not.
My question is, Does it matter, from a safety ...
December 12th, 2006 04:05 PM
One in the pipe
In another thread it is polled wether most carry with one in the pipe or not.
My question is, Does it matter, from a safety aspect, wether or not you chamber a round by inserting magazine and then allow the slide to move forward, remove magazine, top off and then reinsert magazine, or insert a loose round into empty chamber, allow slide to move forward and then insert full magazine?
If not a safety issue would there be another mechanical reason to do it the long way?
December 12th, 2006 04:14 PM
Not so much a safety issue as it is an issue with mechanics. When you have a mag inserted and rack the slide, you strip the round from the mag. The rim of the round slides up and behind the extractor. When you drop a round in the chamber and let the slide go home, the extractor is snapping around and over the rim (it wasn't designed to do that). once or twice, i don't see a problem, however I wouldnt make it into a habit.
December 12th, 2006 04:35 PM
Exactamundo as razor sez. --------
December 12th, 2006 06:20 PM
As said above you should always load from a mag the gun was designed that way and should only be loaded that way
December 12th, 2006 07:02 PM
Thank you, I hadn't even thought about that. I will never do that anymore.
The more I hang out here the more I learn.
December 12th, 2006 07:14 PM
Well, except for Beretta 92s - the owner manual describes how to load a round directly into the chamber without using the mag.
With a Beretta 92, I prefer to load the mag one short, engage the slide safety, drop a round in the chamber, let the slide go, and then insert the mag.
The reason I load the mag one round short is so that if I have to unload the gun while I'm "out", I've got a place to put the round that was in the chamber.
Beretta 92s are kinda neat guns.
December 12th, 2006 07:19 PM
Some guns with tight extractors won't even go into battery that way - my PX-4, for example. Must load from the mag.
December 12th, 2006 08:54 PM
From The Mag Only...
Get into a habit...do it the same way each time...
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December 12th, 2006 09:39 PM
I second that....
Originally Posted by Tangle
I love my 92G-SD...:love:
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December 13th, 2006 12:23 PM
I echo the comment above... the pistol is made to feed from the mag, and not by inserting a round manually in the chamber. As my ol' Granpa said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". (And as a government employee says, "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is broke...")
...I'm a DA Civilian, BTW...
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December 13th, 2006 12:28 PM
A Beretta 92 is designed to be loaded directly into the chamber - one of the very few guns that can be loaded that way with the manufacturer's blessing.
Another thing that a Beretta 92 FS will do is close the slide automatically when the mag it inserted, and it is very reliable in doing so. It does require a slight technique, but it's pretty natural.
December 13th, 2006 12:34 PM
You fine folks have this one covered.
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December 13th, 2006 03:41 PM
I have a Beretta Tomcat (.32ACP) that has a tip-up barrel and can be loaded either way. It's not my preferred carry, but will do in a pinch.
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December 13th, 2006 05:51 PM
Always think safety and do what you feel is safe. However, I would not try to load a 1911 any other way other than from mag.
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December 13th, 2006 08:53 PM
I don't with my Glock M23........ but that's just me.
Originally Posted by MIKEV
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