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    One in the pipe

    In another thread it is polled wether most carry with one in the pipe or not.

    My question is, Does it matter, from a safety aspect, wether or not you chamber a round by inserting magazine and then allow the slide to move forward, remove magazine, top off and then reinsert magazine, or insert a loose round into empty chamber, allow slide to move forward and then insert full magazine?

    If not a safety issue would there be another mechanical reason to do it the long way?

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    Not so much a safety issue as it is an issue with mechanics. When you have a mag inserted and rack the slide, you strip the round from the mag. The rim of the round slides up and behind the extractor. When you drop a round in the chamber and let the slide go home, the extractor is snapping around and over the rim (it wasn't designed to do that). once or twice, i don't see a problem, however I wouldnt make it into a habit.

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    As said above you should always load from a mag the gun was designed that way and should only be loaded that way

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    Gentlemen,

    Thank you, I hadn't even thought about that. I will never do that anymore.

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    Well, except for Beretta 92s - the owner manual describes how to load a round directly into the chamber without using the mag.

    With a Beretta 92, I prefer to load the mag one short, engage the slide safety, drop a round in the chamber, let the slide go, and then insert the mag.

    The reason I load the mag one round short is so that if I have to unload the gun while I'm "out", I've got a place to put the round that was in the chamber.

    Beretta 92s are kinda neat guns.

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    Some guns with tight extractors won't even go into battery that way - my PX-4, for example. Must load from the mag.
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    From The Mag Only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    Beretta 92s are kinda neat guns.
    I second that....

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    I echo the comment above... the pistol is made to feed from the mag, and not by inserting a round manually in the chamber. As my ol' Granpa said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". (And as a government employee says, "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is broke...")

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    A Beretta 92 is designed to be loaded directly into the chamber - one of the very few guns that can be loaded that way with the manufacturer's blessing.

    Another thing that a Beretta 92 FS will do is close the slide automatically when the mag it inserted, and it is very reliable in doing so. It does require a slight technique, but it's pretty natural.

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    I have a Beretta Tomcat (.32ACP) that has a tip-up barrel and can be loaded either way. It's not my preferred carry, but will do in a pinch.
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    Always think safety and do what you feel is safe. However, I would not try to load a 1911 any other way other than from mag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEV View Post
    In another thread it is polled wether most carry with one in the pipe or not.

    My question is, Does it matter, from a safety aspect, wether or not you chamber a round by inserting magazine and then allow the slide to move forward, remove magazine, top off and then reinsert magazine, or insert a loose round into empty chamber, allow slide to move forward and then insert full magazine?

    If not a safety issue would there be another mechanical reason to do it the long way?

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