Anti-gun South Dakota Newspaper Published List Of Permit Holders

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    Anti-gun South Dakota Newspaper Published List Of Permit Holders

    In South Dakota we got the State to seal the permit holder records on 07-01-06. Just prior to that the largest newspaper in SD. mined all of the data in the SD. Sec. of States office, and published it today. I will never buy another paper from them.
    http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

    http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...ory=DATABASE01

    Last edited by DakotaXD; December 17th, 2006 at 08:22 PM. Reason: corrected date
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    if it was sealed 1-7-06 wouldnt it be illegal to print 11 months later even if data was gathered prior to that ..

    Just think if anyone gets robbed or a problem is caused that should be a major lawsuit

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    Unfortunately It only prohibits official's from that, and it shoud have said 07-01-06

    23-7-8.6. List, record, or registry of privately owned firearms, owners of firearms, or holders of permits prohibited. No state agency, political subdivision, official, agent, or employee of any state agency or political subdivision may knowingly keep or cause to be kept any list, record, or registry of privately owned firearms or any list, record, or registry of the owners of those firearms, or any list, record, or registry of holders of permits to carry a concealed pistol.

    Source: SL 2005, ch 124, 1; SL 2006, ch 133, 2.

    23-7-8.10. Access restricted to application, record, or registry of holders of permits. No state agency, political subdivision, official, agent, employee of any state agency or political subdivision, may knowingly release or permit access to any application, list, record or registry of applicants or holders of permits to carry a concealed pistol to any person except another law enforcement agency or the secretary of state.

    Source: SL 2006, ch 133, 1.

    23-7-8.7. Application of firearm confidentiality provisions. The provisions of 23-7-8.6 do not apply to:
    (1) Records of firearms that have been used in committing any crime;
    (2) Permits to carry a concealed pistol records relating to any person who has been convicted of a felony;
    (3) Records of the serial numbers of firearms that have been reported stolen that are retained for a period not in excess of ten days after such firearms are recovered and returned to the lawful owner. However, official documentation recording the theft of a recovered weapon may be maintained no longer than the balance of the year entered and two additional years;
    (4) Firearm records that must be retained by firearm dealers under federal law, including copies of such records transmitted to law enforcement agencies;
    (5) Any on duty law enforcement officer while conducting routine verification of the validity of a permit to carry a concealed pistol; and
    (6) The secretary of state for the issuance of concealed pistol permits pursuant to chapter 23-7 and any access reasonably necessary to verify information with regard to specific permits individually.

    Source: SL 2005, ch 124, 2.
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    Right now such pratices are common in several Ohio cities, and there is a bill currently making its way through the state Congress to stop such acts. There are many problems that can happen as a result of this sort of information being published.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White View Post
    if it was sealed 1-7-06 wouldnt it be illegal to print 11 months later even if data was gathered prior to that ..
    It would be unconstitutional for the government to prevent the paper from printing it. Except for national security information, the Supreme Court has ruled prior restraint of the press illegal (and even the national security exception is limited).

    Now I agree that printing the names was a nasty, stupid thing to do. However, the Bill of Rights protects our rights to do a lot of nasty, stupid things. That's the price we pay for freedom (and a price well worth paying, in my opinion).

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    We had the access sealed, but the problem is that they got the data before it was sealed. They probably have the legal right to publish it, because of the 1st Amendment (free speech) but they are JERKS in my opinion!
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    This from the rag we of West river call "Argus Lier" and what a sad sack of road apples thoes people are. " uber Socialist"
    and I won't buy there rag !

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    Here's An Intelligent Quote...

    ...Nationally, gun ownership can be linked to homicide and suicide rates...

    Yep, someone owned a gun that was used to kill sombody...DAAAAA...is this supposed to mean something?...

    Stupidity abounds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post

    Yep, someone owned a gun that was used to kill sombody...DAAAAA...is this supposed to mean something?...

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    Of course it means something...

    It means guns are spawned from the devil himself. Get your gun right now.... go on get it...... feel that evil? Can't you feel the darkness that inherently surrounds the metal?

    Listen carefully to what your gun is saying... listen.....
    "I will take you with me to the underworld where we shall rule the chaos that surrounds my very exsistance mwaaahaaaaaahaaaaa(evil laugh)"


    Okay, sarcasm off:

    I think the paper made a major fubar!
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    The article isn't so bad. Their conclusion seems to be that owning a gun isn't a big deal if you have a little common sense.

    The writer Calvin Trillin said the motto of the Midwest ought to be "No big deal." South Dakota makes a strong case for the idea that even a powerful tool like a handgun, with a dose of common sense and social responsibility, can be no big deal.

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    na mine are no longer evil had them exersised lol

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    I wouldn't be surprised at all if our paper did this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayley View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised at all if our paper did this.
    Same here. Our paper is called "the democrat and chronicle." Anything with the word democrat in the title can't be a good sign.

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    They have a database set up so you can type peopls name in to see if they have a permit, they would like you to send them a notice if you don't think these individuals you look up should have a gun.
    Neet database now the criminals not only know where to go to rip off a gun, they can call up peoples names they want to rob to see if they have a permit, making it safer to rob those not on the list.

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    Shouldn't there be some class action law suit for "endangerment". The main reason we carry conceal is to keep the BG from shooting us first. Maybe the paper would turn that into making us out as cowards for the "endangerment" part but we didn't ask for the fight. Also there may be a privacy suit since the records were sealed. The first amendment doesnt protect you from being sued.
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