how do you prepare for the legal side of a justified shooting?

how do you prepare for the legal side of a justified shooting?

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    how do you prepare for the legal side of a justified shooting?

    I will start out with the obvious that I am a newbie.
    Back in Sept. KRvW started a thread about USCCA insurance. I did a lot of reading on that, and one of the things they advise is to get a pro-gun lawyer to take you on as a client before the shooting happens.
    (this is assuming that you are legal to carry and it was a justified shooting, etc).
    If you are dragged into court by a suit happy family, how do you prepare?
    Public attorney? USCCA or other? or what?
    Or is it enough to get a lawyer ready just in case and hope you don't ever need them?

    The way I see it, If I am preparing for the "just in case" by carrying a firearm, shouldn't legal defense be part of that "just in case"?


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    Sure! (And welcome to the forum). Not so long ago, it wasn't unusual to have & keep a lawyer on retainer. A yearly fee availed the client access, advice & services without having to find a lawyer when you have NO TIME to...find a lawyer. I've maintained that tradition. So, in the event that my retained Law Firm isn't especially gun-law savvy, I'll let THEM suggest or even RETAIN a gun-law specialist on my behalf. As for the proliferation of USCCA-type policy offerings, I have NO idea.
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    To each his own. One of the upsides to getting old is I own nothing. Everything I accumulated in my lifetime has been allocated to my four sons. I believe in the adage of leaving this world as I arrived, broke. I will never draw my weapon unless I have been forced to, an than its really been decided by the actions of others. Lawyers do investigate the upside to suing on behalf of their clients after they look me over
    I doubt they would take the case.

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    Easy8 I applaud you for taking the stance you have. Most of my accumulated stuff is solid Man Cave oriented. Although I'm sure there's a woman or two here and there that would appreciate dark stained furniture of an early American style and finish.
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    You prepare for after by becoming an encyclopedia on the laws of your state BEFORE an incident. The insurance scammers are just that....they are of no use to you whatsoever but your money is of use to them. Avoid that nonsense. You don't need a "lawyer on retainer or speed dial." That's kid talk. Study your state laws daily. Practice them just as much as one would practice shooting their gun. The odds of you ever being involved in a shooting are nearly zero. But....if you're going to carry a gun, you have the responsibility to know what you can and cannot do. Know it well. Instinctively. Like shooting your gun.

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    I am being told by my insurance broker that a legal shooting my umbrella ins. policy will be in force . I am covered for alot of different things such as libel too . Plus if it is a work related shooting my company policy will cover as well .

    But i would not be thinking of that part if you needed to defend yourself . I hope and pray i never have to find out first hand .
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPX4 View Post
    I will start out with the obvious that I am a newbie.
    Back in Sept. KRvW started a thread about USCCA insurance. I did a lot of reading on that, and one of the things they advise is to get a pro-gun lawyer to take you on as a client before the shooting happens.
    (this is assuming that you are legal to carry and it was a justified shooting, etc).
    If you are dragged into court by a suit happy family, how do you prepare?
    Public attorney? USCCA or other? or what?
    Or is it enough to get a lawyer ready just in case and hope you don't ever need them?

    The way I see it, If I am preparing for the "just in case" by carrying a firearm, shouldn't legal defense be part of that "just in case"?
    I assume you have your carry permit. Based on that assumption.

    Contact your instructor or LGS see who they recommend.
    Contact the lawyer, and ask him the specifics of how it works. Keep his number in your phone just in case. Give a call every year or so to make sure he is still in business.
    Research your state laws, ask questions along the way if you need clarification.
    Train your mind and body in the pistol craft.
    Last but not least. Pray that you never need your gun. But be prepared to use it, if you have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Pray that you never need your gun. But be prepared to use it, if you have to.
    To me, this is a on going #1 step.

    But, even with prayer, I would rather pray and hope for the best, and plan for the worst.
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    I understand about having a lawyer "in the wings" just in case, but some of us have a hard enough time covering all the normal bills. I just hope I am not backed into a corner, and have to use my weapon. That's what I miss about the Marines...things were different.
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    Consider taking NRA Personal Protection In the Home and then Personal Protection Outside the Home in your area. Both require that the law module be taught by an attorney or LEO knowledgeable of self-defense firearms usage in your state. They are excellent courses and are much more than a shooting course (although there is 2.5hrs of shooting in PPIH and 9 hrs in PPOH). I teach both of these but in a different part of the Country than you are located. You can go to NRAInstructors.org - Portal for NRA certified Instructors, NRA Education and Training to search for where the course is given near you. Just make sure to vet the Instructor as we are not all created equal and you want to learn the most from these classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longstreet View Post
    You prepare for after by becoming an encyclopedia on the laws of your state BEFORE an incident. The insurance scammers are just that....they are of no use to you whatsoever but your money is of use to them. Avoid that nonsense. You don't need a "lawyer on retainer or speed dial." That's kid talk. Study your state laws daily. Practice them just as much as one would practice shooting their gun. The odds of you ever being involved in a shooting are nearly zero. But....if you're going to carry a gun, you have the responsibility to know what you can and cannot do. Know it well. Instinctively. Like shooting your gun.
    There is an old saying "He who represents himself has a fool for a client". If you think that just knowing the laws and doing everything "right" will keep you out of trouble, you might be for a rude awakening someday. A lawyer that knows gun/self defense laws in your state is the first and only person you need to talk to after using your weapon in self defense.

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    I suscribe to a service called Legal Shield. It's primary focus is to protect against identity theft, but the version I have also gives me a retainer for a law firm near me. I have a certain number of hours included in my annual service. This is my first line of defense for simple questions. I am now looking into additional services to provide more insurance in case a shooting were to occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPX4 View Post
    I will start out with the obvious that I am a newbie.
    Back in Sept. KRvW started a thread about USCCA insurance. I did a lot of reading on that, and one of the things they advise is to get a pro-gun lawyer to take you on as a client before the shooting happens.
    (this is assuming that you are legal to carry and it was a justified shooting, etc).
    If you are dragged into court by a suit happy family, how do you prepare?
    Public attorney? USCCA or other? or what?
    Or is it enough to get a lawyer ready just in case and hope you don't ever need them?

    The way I see it, If I am preparing for the "just in case" by carrying a firearm, shouldn't legal defense be part of that "just in case"?
    Here are your steps

    Join Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network, Inc.

    Mas Ayoob is a board member. Google Fu his name to get an idea of his pedigree.

    When you join the network, you get a list of attorneys in your area that are also members of the group.

    Interview those attorneys on their backgrounds and use of lethal force cases.

    Choose an attorney, get his biz card, and ask for his procedures if you ever need his services.

    This is how I found our attorney. I have his biz card in my wallet.

    In case of emergency, call 911. Then I call my attorney. He comes on scene or immediately to the PD if I am there...wherever I am.

    And by becoming a member of the armed citizens defense network, they take care of the first 10K of expenses and their board members including Mas Ayoob will review your case.

    I dont know how to legally prepare any better than this.
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    You will have time to get a lawyer. If its a justifide shooting in a lot of states you wont even be taken to the police station. If you are you again in a lot of states you will still go home and not be charged with anything.

    I personally dont have anything like insurance for a shooting. Nor do I think about that. I will when and if the time comes.
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