Went shooting today, good results, but problems with grip

Went shooting today, good results, but problems with grip

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    Went shooting today, good results, but problems with grip

    I went to a range today and shot off 165 rounds (all I had with me).
    Made some startling finds.
    1) My strong hand only grip is more accurate than two hand. (but follow up shot is slower)
    2) gripping with a 60/40 grip my left hand (weak) slides off after each shot. The tighter I tried to grip with weak hand, the more it slipped.
    3) gripping with a 40/60 grip (strong hand 60) my shots go low to left

    A couple givens, I have a slight tremor in my hands, I was shooting at 5 yds, shot my Beretta PX4 9mm Compact.

    I am curious if my gun grip is wrong size. See picture
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    I tried to allign my weak hand at 45 degree with left index finger resting on bottom of trigger guard.

    Any of the 1000's of experts out there have any suggestions?
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    A dozen different grips will get you a dozen different results. I try to stick to a two-handed, thumbs forward grip with no pressure from the support hand.
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    Why dont you try 100 percent grip and forget about all the 60/40 stuff.
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    You didn't really make it clear, to me at least, if your handgun was slipping after each shot. In the photo. it appears you have a death grip on the little guy...that can cause tremors or is it a medical condition ?

    Please, show a photograph of a two hand hold...60/40 doesn't mean much to me...does it mean pressure or palm surface ??

    Maybe something like Talon grips would help....TALON Gun Grips for Beretta PX4 Storm Full Size 9mm/ .40/ .45 ACP

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    Here is a video reference..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Why dont you try 100 percent grip and forget about all the 60/40 stuff.
    I learned from Magpul and others that 60% of the grip on the gun is from the support hand, and 40% is from strong hand. This is done so the trigger finger is not in a tension state and can squeeze uniformly.
    Not sure I understand about 100% unless my strong hand has full control of gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Here is a video reference..

    I have seen this before, and that is what I was trying to do. But the tighter I tried to get my left (support) hand, the more the left hand slipped off as I shot

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    Maybe since all ten of my one handed shots where bulls eyes, I should load with the new RIP round and just count on the one shot? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPX4 View Post
    I went to a range today and shot off 165 rounds (all I had with me).
    Made some startling finds.
    1) My strong hand only grip is more accurate than two hand. (but follow up shot is slower)
    2) gripping with a 60/40 grip my left hand (weak) slides off after each shot. The tighter I tried to grip with weak hand, the more it slipped.
    3) gripping with a 40/60 grip (strong hand 60) my shots go low to left

    A couple givens, I have a slight tremor in my hands, I was shooting at 5 yds, shot my Beretta PX4 9mm Compact.

    I am curious if my gun grip is wrong size. See picture
    Grip.JPG

    I tried to allign my weak hand at 45 degree with left index finger resting on bottom of trigger guard.

    Any of the 1000's of experts out there have any suggestions?
    Yeah, the handgun is tough to be competent with. It takes continual practice. I get that stupid "shaky hands" sometimes, then the next time I am as steady as a rock!?! Go figure.
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    Try pulling with your off hand and pushing with your right hand. It works for some folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevew View Post
    Try pulling with your off hand and pushing with your right hand. It works for some folks.

    Interesting idea. I have heard of that for when carrying a flashlight, but not a two handed grip. is the pulling and pushing in relation to me and target? If not, I am very confused (which my wife says to me often anyway)

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    Just apply a light pulling force with your left hand and push lightly with your right. Use a high grip to help with flip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPX4 View Post
    Maybe since all ten of my one handed shots where bulls eyes, I should load with the new RIP round and just count on the one shot? lol
    You are answering your own question in regards to a percentage of grip with the left hand. When you don't apply grip pressure with it, you are getting hits.
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    I understand about the trembling. I have a condition called familial trembling. Not parkinsons but as I hit 60 I noticed some trembling in my hands. No big deal at closer range. Over 10 yards it begins to show.

    I don't put much pressure on the sides of the grips. I push with the strong hand and pull with the off hand, but certainly not a death grip. My grip looks exactly like the video, hmm, must have had similar training. I am significantly better with 2 hands than one although I am fairly accurate with either hand (lots of practice).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPX4 View Post
    I learned from Magpul and others that 60% of the grip on the gun is from the support hand, and 40% is from strong hand. This is done so the trigger finger is not in a tension state and can squeeze uniformly.
    Not sure I understand about 100% unless my strong hand has full control of gun.
    The video I posted was from magpul. Travis talks about 100% and 100%. Reasons are given as to why....

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPX4 View Post
    I have seen this before, and that is what I was trying to do. But the tighter I tried to get my left (support) hand, the more the left hand slipped off as I shot
    Role your support hand wrist farther forward. Then grip the weapon. See if that helps...
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