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MCAULIFFE POKES GUN OWNERS TO REPAY A DEBT TO MICHAEL BLOOMBERG
Governor McAuliffe, as a partial payment to Michael Bloomberg for helping
him get elected the Governor of Virginia by a whopping 2.5% margin, used his
very first veto on a bill that simply CLARIFIED A CURRENT GUN LAW!
The Governor vetoed HB 962, which clarifies that someone who doesn't have a
CHP can store a loaded handgun in an CLOSED compartment or container within
a vehicle or vessel. The word used in the current law is "secured" instead
The more I think about it, the more it is actually pretty funny: McAuliffe
has played Bloomberg for a sucker! Mcauliffe's VETO CHANGES NOTHING!
Remember that our Governor hails from New York and is clearly more than a
little liberty and freedom challenged. He had zero legislative experience
prior to being elected and has no idea about what Virginians expect from him
when it comes to protecting our right to keep and bear arms.
It gets better: because of a technicality in how the House handled voting
down the Governor's attempt to require the compartment or container be
locked, it's possible that HB 962 may not be brought up during the veto
override session in April. Why is that good? Because the legislative
record now shows that both the Senate and the House voted overwhelmingly for
the clarification and that the House overwhelmingly and specifically
rejected the Governor's "locked" wording (the Senate didn't have to take the
issue up since the House already rejected the wording change). That
actually strengthens our position and is a good place to leave things for
BOTTOM LINE: Current law stands, so storing a loaded handgun in a CLOSED
compartment or container in a vehicle remains legal for all gun owners.
Delegate Ben Cline's introduced HB 962 at VCDL's request. The idea was to
avoid false arrests by police officers who might erroneously think that
"secured" means "locked," even though an Attorney General, the Courts, and
the General Assembly have said that it does NOT mean locked, but CLOSED.
Such false arrests have happened, BTW, and VCDL felt that this bill was
But, it looks like the Governor wants people to sue the pants off localities
over such false arrests rather than just make sure they don't happen.
So be it - ignorance of the law is no excuse to falsely arrest someone.
Thanks to member Kevin Hix for the link:
From pilotonline.com: http://tinyurl.com/pggbyqt
Gov. McAuliffe uses first veto on "guns in cars" bill By Julian Walker The
Gov. Terry McAuliffe's first use of the veto pen - on a gun rights bill he
previously sought to weaken with an amendment - is more symbolic than
While its effect doesn't change the law on storing guns inside a private
vehicle, it's a clear reminder to McAuliffe's gun control base that he's in
He vetoed Del. Ben Cline's HB962, intended to clarify that gun owners
without concealed handgun permits can keep the weapons in their vehicles if
they're secured in compartments that aren't locked. McAuliffe considers that
broadened definition a public safety risk.
An amendment from McAuliffe had required storage of weapons in locked
containers but was rejected by the Republican-run House of Delegates earlier
this month. Cline, R-Rockbridge County, has said the legislation is
necessary to make it clear that a storage container needn't be locked to
comply with the law.
McAuliffe's veto is the final action on Cline's bill this year, legislative
Ordinarily, bills vetoed or amended by a governor go back to the General
Assembly for consideration, typically in April. Because the legislature
rejected McAuliffe's amendment, however, members don't get a chance to
respond to his veto.
Normally, overriding a veto takes a two-thirds vote in the House and Senate
- Cline's bill passed each by wide margins - and failure to reach that
threshold in either chamber means the veto stands.
Cline's goal was to update the "guns in cars" law from 2010, which created
an exemption to Virginia's policy on concealed handgun permits to allow
owners to store them in closed compartments inside private vehicles.
That law initially specified that the container had to be locked. But an
amendment from Gov. Bob McDonnell to one of the "guns in cars" bills
softened its language so the compartment only had to be "secured."
McDonnell didn't seek to amend a companion bill, leaving the "locked"
Gun rights advocates who perceive McAuliffe as unfriendly to their cause
bristled at his proposed alteration to Cline's bill earlier this month.
"The amendment is clearly meant to poke gun owners in the eye! Not a good
way for McAuliffe to start off his tenure as Governor, but not unexpected
either," the Virginia Citizens Defense League wrote in a March 4 email to
McAuliffe's gubernatorial campaign in October received roughly $1.75 million
in advertising support from Independence USA PAC, according to the Virginia
Public Access Project, a nonpartisan tracker of money in state politics. The
political committee started by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg spent
the money on television advertising critical of former Attorney General Ken
Cuccinelli's stance on criminal background checks before certain gun
"I am disappointed that Governor McAuliffe's first use of the veto is in
opposition to a bill defending the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding
Virginians," Cline said in a statement. "The Governor is clearly listening
to his friends in the gun control lobby instead of the majority of
Virginians who support the Second Amendment."