I almost feel guilty!

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    I almost feel guilty!

    Why? Because of what so many of you guys seem to have to go thru, with hoops and hurdles, costs etc, seemingly even, for renewals sometimes.

    Well - as my permit was due up on 24th of this month and I can renew within 30 days prior - I opted to swing by the SO and get it done.

    Clipboard and form - fill in what is needed - present D/L (and interestingly my non-res FL as I have one) - wait for NIC's - stand on marked spot on floor for pic - hand over $26 and wait briefly to get permit card.

    Total time approx 20 minutes start to finish - and now good till 2012!

    I sure wish things were as straightforward for everyone. This would not have taken any longer really even as a first-time application BTW.
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    They didn't print you again? In NC it wasn't a hassle you can renew within 90 days of experation. You fill out a form get printed, wait a couple weeks while they check to with the mental health agency and run the prints and they call you and get your pic taken and new permit, but no photo on permit. Oh I forgot $80.00 but it's good for 5 years so I can't complain.
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    Last time I renewed it was pretty easy too. Hmmm, when do I need to renew????

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    Chris I am with you in that boat. I have not had to renew yet but when i do, I will go through the same process. Picture, NIC, one form and money. In and out in 20-30 minutes. Thats about what i had to do for the original permit. Oregon is a "shall issue" state as well.

    Sorry guys for the hoops you have to jump through... I really do feel for you guys, especially in calif!
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    They didn't print you again?
    Kevin - believe it or not - no finger prints even first time around! I have only had prints taken twice - once for getting FL non-res and the other was INS prior to getting my citizenship.
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    I assume a requirement is that you have no felony convictions on your record, right? Well how can they thoroughly check this without finger printing? Just curious. Don't they also check for any mental illness problems? I am sorry I feel both of these are very important before handing somebody a permit to carry a loaded firearm!!
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    I guess the lack of finger printing does seem odd, compared to some jurisdictions. OTOH it would seem that anyone who did indeed have a felony conviction would have been finger printed anyways - thus bridging that gap. I don't feel this leaves that much of a loophole.

    The mental illness aspect is covered thru the form declaration check boxes - much the same set of questions as on 4473 form etc. Of course, as with gun purchases - this part requires honesty and so is not infallible.
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    Chris,

    I might even make you feel like you had to jump through hoops.

    Mine was done all through the mail, and this year when I renew after July, I won't have to renew again, only update if I move.

    Ahh, now I can feel the daggers hitting me from all the death looks everyone is giving me.

    I do feel bad for a lot of folks though, it seems like a lot to go through only to be able to do what the gov't won't do in the first place. Protect our butts.
    "fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." [Warren v. District of Columbia,(D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)]
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    OK Mike - you win I sure ain't complaining tho

    I do feel bad for a lot of folks though, it seems like a lot to go through only to be able to do what the gov't won't do in the first place. Protect our butts.
    " what the gov't won't do " - add cannot do to that too - it would be impossible and thus our strength of case in taking responsibility for ourselves and families.
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    That would be nice if it was that fast here.

    Waiting less than 30 days, $75 for the license and more money for a renewal training and shooting test but is good for 5 years. Total cost is @ 150 to 200.

    At least the law is very good and very few restrictions.
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    No more making fun of NY state. We don't ever have to renew. :)

    Ok so i guess there are some other things to make fun of like the 7 month wait to get your permit here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post
    Kevin - believe it or not - no finger prints even first time around! I have only had prints taken twice - once for getting FL non-res and the other was INS prior to getting my citizenship.
    I'm a newbie here, so I'm curious: where are you from? You mentioned INS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard1 View Post
    I'm a newbie here, so I'm curious: where are you from? You mentioned INS.
    Let me say welcome as I don't think I yet have.

    I am UK in origin - came over for good Sept 2000 (to marry a lovely lady) - and gradually worked my way thru the INS system such that on Sept 28 2005 I gained my citizenship. I can now call myself a proud American
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post
    Let me say welcome as I don't think I yet have.

    I am UK in origin - came over for good Sept 2000 (to marry a lovely lady) - and gradually worked my way thru the INS system such that on Sept 28 2005 I gained my citizenship. I can now call myself a proud American
    Congratulations on your new citizenship!!! I feel proud that so many want to become Americans and now you are one. I wish you well.
    And thanks for the welcome.
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    They send you a card here letting you know that it will expire in 90 days, go down to Sheriff's office, fill out a small form and leave $5.00 They send you a card after the criminal check is done (3-5 days) and you go down a pick it up anytime up to 30 days after expiration date. $10 and a picture taken at pick-up date and it is good for another 5 years!
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