Non Resident Permits

Non Resident Permits

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    Non Resident Permits

    I was reading one of Massad Ayoob's concealed carry books and in one of the chapters he made the comment to apply for and get as many permits as you can. Now obviously he does a lot of traveling and being from New Hampshire. It looks like there are not a lot of states that honor a NH permit. Now being that I'm from Michigan and there is only a hand full of states that don't honor my permit what would the reason be for me to get permits from other shall issue states?
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    Good question.
    Personally, I would only be interested in the states I know I might travel through or go to.
    But since one of those states is NY for me, I'm pretty much out of luck.

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    Consider getting nonresident permits from states that will give you carry rights in states that your Michigan permit does not. That is the main reason for getting additional permits. For example, I have a brother that lives in Texas. Texas does not recognize my Ohio permit, but does recognize my PA non-resident permit. It allowed me to legally carry in Texas when I went down there a couple of years ago to visit him.
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    I travel to Washington State frequently. They don't recognize my Oregon permit, but do recognize my Utah permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollywood63 View Post
    I was reading one of Massad Ayoob's concealed carry books and in one of the chapters he made the comment to apply for and get as many permits as you can. Now obviously he does a lot of traveling and being from New Hampshire. It looks like there are not a lot of states that honor a NH permit. Now being that I'm from Michigan and there is only a hand full of states that don't honor my permit what would the reason be for me to get permits from other shall issue states?
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    I believe if you have a non-resident permit from another state (Florida seems pretty popular), you can keep it if you move to another state and still be able to carry if they have reciprocity w/respect to your non-res permit. If you only have a resident permit from your former state, it is no longer valid and you'll need to go through the permit process again in your new state...
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    I am going to get a enhanced Idaho permit that will complete what I want being I do not go into Ca., NY or Il. The permits you need for out of the country I will not discuss.

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    I have Wisconsin and Utah permits. Between the two I'm pretty well covered in my travels. I'd like to have an Illinois permit, but I so hate that waste of space state I can't bring myself to give them anything more that the toll money they charge me to drive on I-90 on my way to St. Louis and points south. good luck
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    Entering the 1000 foot School Gun Free Zone.

    One must have a permit issued from the State in which the GFZ is located. For example if your Carry permit is recognized in MN, you can legally carry, but you still cannot legally carry within 1000 ft of a school, without a permit issued by the State of MN. Recognized out of State permits do not qualify.
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    IANAL, but believe having a Non-resident permit in a state you frequently carry in also allows you within 1,000 ft. of a school. As I understand the federal law, you can only do so if you have a carry permit in THAT state. Not that all LEO's or states would hang you for that, all it takes is once.

    edit: Looks like Steve4102 just beat me
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    Quote Originally Posted by SWOhio View Post
    I believe if you have a non-resident permit from another state (Florida seems pretty popular), you can keep it if you move to another state and still be able to carry if they have reciprocity w/respect to your non-res permit. If you only have a resident permit from your former state, it is no longer valid and you'll need to go through the permit process again in your new state...
    That depends on the state you moved from. Ohio has made recent changes to this, that go into effect next March.

    As to the OP's question, unless I was going to start travelling a lot to a state that doesn't recognize my permit, I honestly don't see much value in getting a non-res permit.
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    Thanks guys guess I won't worry these are the states to don't accept my Michigan permit and I never go there


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    If Massad wishes to pay for all my possible non-resident permits so I can display them on my CC sash like merit badges, I'm all for it. Otherwise...I gotta take a pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro View Post
    IANAL, but believe having a Non-resident permit in a state you frequently carry in also allows you within 1,000 ft. of a school. As I understand the federal law, you can only do so if you have a carry permit in THAT state. Not that all LEO's or states would hang you for that, all it takes is once.

    edit: Looks like Steve4102 just beat me
    If an out-of-state permit is honored, then it has all the privilages of that state's permits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    If an out-of-state permit is honored, then it has all the privilages of that state's permits.
    Not with regards to the FEDERAL Gun Free School Zone Act. That one only exempts permits issued by the state in which the school is located, as noted by two posters above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    If an out-of-state permit is honored, then it has all the privilages of that state's permits.
    As already pointed out above, Issued and Honored are not the same thing according to this law and many others.

    The Federal 1000 foot rule clearly states, Issued by the State in which the school zone resides, this in no way should be confused with "Honored".
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