What if we could all open carry?
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Imagine an alternate reality where people aren't scared to see a law abiding ...
February 8th, 2007 01:09 AM
What if we could all open carry?
Would it be worse or better if we were all open carrying?
Imagine an alternate reality where people aren't scared to see a law abiding citizen exercising their right to keep and bear, where it's normal to be surrounded by like minded good guys.
Would that reality have any pros and cons that you can think of?
It could go well, with more guns visible on the streets crime would go down. But it could backfire, if the criminal gangs targeted the good guys then people might think twice about open carry.
I'm not advocating open carry, or wishing for change. Just throwing something out for discussion.
February 8th, 2007 01:10 AM
February 8th, 2007 01:12 AM
how would really know who is law abiding or not?
February 8th, 2007 01:13 AM
By their actions.
Originally Posted by ebk637
February 8th, 2007 01:14 AM
but it would probably be too late for someone.
February 8th, 2007 01:15 AM
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February 8th, 2007 01:20 AM
How do we know now?
Originally Posted by ebk637
And of those that aren't law abiding, how many would open carry?
Criminals mainly carry cheap/stolen guns tucked into waistbands, for them it wouldn't matter if open carry was mandatory.
February 8th, 2007 02:18 AM
Other than the fact that most non-LEO aren't properly trained in retention technique, I think it would be a nightmare. A well meaning citizen could easily become the means by which criminals obtained their weapons.
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February 8th, 2007 02:22 AM
I'd love to be able to open carry for quick access to the weapon. But on the other side of that someone else has quick access to your weapon too. It's nice how criminals aren't scared to come in with their gun in their hand when they are ready to use it, isn't it? Imagine if we could know ahead of time that someone was going to use deadly force on us. We would know to get the gun out in advance, so the extra time it takes to get from concealment wouldn't matter.
I think for our safety, and our sanity we're best off keeping it concealed for the most part. However it would be very nice if we could open carry without harassment or getting dirty looks from people. People would come to realize that good people don't do bad things with their gun.
February 8th, 2007 05:18 AM
You can open carry in Minnesota, but I have never seen it.
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February 8th, 2007 05:42 AM
The only time it would be good to be able to open carry is things like Wild Bill days (if you have a Peacemaker or two or S&W Model 3 or such) or hunting or hiking in the badlands or a wooded area (incase of Mountain lion ect) or driving through a more desolete place. (A IWB is a pain when driving accross the state)
But walking down the streets of Bismarck Open Carry, I just don't want that much attention. There has been to much disinformation for open carry to be a wise thing in the US anymore.
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February 8th, 2007 05:57 AM
My preference is concealed. I like having the element of surprise on my side, if possible.
February 8th, 2007 07:45 AM
I have and seen it because I hang around with those www.twincitiescarry.com guys and girls to much!
Originally Posted by devilmutt
Things would be much safer IMHO.
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February 8th, 2007 08:09 AM
Originally Posted by lowflyer
On paper, I suppose that an argument could be made. Though, I think the practical result would be somewhat different. With open carry, the prospective BG now has intel on the specific weapon(s), mode of carry, and (to a degree) the relative preparedness of the person to be attacked. This can't help but result in a better plan of attack and execution. All things considered, I'd just as soon avoid providing any such comfort to an attacker. A sudden "changing of the rules" in an engagement can often turn the tables to one's advantage. Just ask any seasoned LEO or combat soldier.
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February 8th, 2007 08:52 AM
I prefer concealed...
Given my job, most people expect me to be unarmed (including my supervisor...but he's 75 miles away...).
As much as I would like faster access to the weapon, the element of surprise seems more of an advantage. After all...one must still draw the weapon. That's a huge disadvantage, IMHO, if the BG has his weapon in hand. Maybe...just maybe...the BG will have to slow down to draw, too...
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