Works for me.
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Works for me.
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Problem is, there are lawyers who specialize in firearms and self defense laws who disagree with his opinion of the statutes. I haver personally talked with two of them. They site other statutes that leave it firmly in a gray area and ripe for a test case. Since I consider both to be my candidates for a phone call if everything goes bad, I'll listen to them...
If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good. ~ Thomas J. Watson, Jr.
Being a test case is a bad, bad thing. Even if you win, you lose.
Battle Plan (n) - a list of things that aren't going to happen if you are attacked.
Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.
Yeah, but you lose worse if you lose.
There are plenty of alternatives to the U.S. Post Office. Better service, too. No need to lay down for such treatment, nor to be a test case ... just go elsewhere.
I do not know of anybody who has ever been thrown up against a wall & frisked or any citizen who has ever been a victim of a spontanious illegal search of their person without probable cause inside of any post office while buying stamps or mailing a package.
There are a couple of things I would like to ask him to clarify his statements on.
For one thing he seems to "imply" that CFR's are not laws. And this is not the case. CFR's ARE laws.
Secondly he fails to define "Official purposes" in regards to its carry in a post office. Which is very germain to this discussion. If what we do is not Offical Purpose then it clearly is the LAW that we cannot carry. I do not think what we do, concealed carry for self defense, is an "official purpose" as defined by that CFR. And it is a law. CFR's are laws.
However my State precludes it anyway so its not really an option for me.
This thread (like all other past CARRY in the post office threads) is going to go absolutely nowhere until somebody volunteers to drop their firearm onto the post office floor.
I leave mine in the truck when I go in the PO, and I have to use the PO as I regularly send things to my family in the UK and I don't really want to Fed-Ex everything.
I simply don't want to risk my permit, I'm law abiding about everything else so I don't see why I should allow myself to break laws that I disagree with.
I generally carry if in my post office (Edmond, OK). In August 1986 a disgruntled employee (who happened to be a National Guard marksmanship instructor) killed 15 people in that very office. He went from one position to another where people were hiding, and executed them. Too bad no one else was carrying that day. That was about 10 years before OK had concealed carry.
I dropped off two letters in the front lobby that morning, and was calling on Edmond Photo just down the street when crazy Pat started shooting. It truly makes one think and thank god!
The problem is that postmasters are trained to call it illegal, so if you get caught carrying, the postal inspectors will be called and you will be arrested by them. Everything else is a court case.
No matter what people say, carrying in 98% of POs is a bad idea for someone not looking for an expensive court case.