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February 15th, 2007 06:08 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of an AD/ND while using a de-cocking lever?
February 15th, 2007 06:17 PM
Never heard of it happening, but when I De-cock my Ruger p89, it doesnt look real "safe" Seems like it might be able to fail. I've tried to "trick" it before by using varying degrees of pressure on the lever, decocking it slow and fast, and haven't been able to get it to fire yet. It's probably a proven and safe system
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February 15th, 2007 06:19 PM
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Not to my knowledge no.
I would be surprised to hear of one actually as the blocking mechanism brought in with operation of a decocker is generally very secure - the hammer can't get near FP or with a striker fired gun like P99 - there is an over-ride action IIRC.
Mind you - when decocking, it's rule #2 every time!
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February 15th, 2007 07:13 PM
Is that a sound it makes? Is that like SA/DA?
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February 15th, 2007 08:16 PM
I've never heard of it personally, but the instructors at Gunsite mentioned that is has happened in the past. When I used to carry in DA, I would use the decocker and only pointed into my bed (i live on the bottom floor), into the ground, or downrange.
I believe you are correct in classifying these instances as Accidental Discharges. The gun malfunctioned in a way it should not and is mechanically broken if the decocker strikes the FP under these circumstances.
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February 15th, 2007 08:33 PM
Never had one but I'm VERY careful when I decock my Bersa.
It just seems so wrong.
When the hammer falls I almost expect to hear Bang.
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February 15th, 2007 08:35 PM
Never heard it happening with a SIG...
February 15th, 2007 08:38 PM
It can't happen with a SIG...let me venture to say that as far as I know it's physically not possible with a SIG if the decocker is properly used.
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February 15th, 2007 08:41 PM
My Bersa 380 has a de-cocker system. I looked and looked till my eyes hurt to see how it worked. I was scared to death to try it the first time. I de-cocked it many times UNLOADED, to see what moved where. Now, knowing that when de-cocked, the hammer is probably 1/8" away from the pin, I have no problem using it when loaded.
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February 15th, 2007 08:51 PM
Never heard of one. Most of them move or block the firing pin so it physically can't fire on the hammer drop.
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February 15th, 2007 09:11 PM
Whenever I use the decocker on my Walther PPK/S, I have my strong-side thumb on the hammer when I depress the lever with my weak hand, then ease the hammer down. I have heard of metal fatigue causing the mechanism to crack and fail under repeated "hammerings," and I want neither an AD nor a repair bill.
February 15th, 2007 09:29 PM
Decockers scare me, but I have never seen one malfunction. When I owned pistols with them I used them as intended, waiting for one to fail, and it never happened. I suppose they're safe... but they still scare me.
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February 15th, 2007 09:49 PM
I have a Sig P228 and it never happened to me. But I always have it pointed in a safe direction anyway.
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February 15th, 2007 10:43 PM
You are right; however I still let the hammer down easy even when using the decocker
Originally Posted by CopperKnight
February 15th, 2007 11:19 PM
My Beretta 9000S...
in 9mm, has a decocker. If you research the design, the use of the decocker does not allow the firing pin to hit anything...I still follow rules # 1-4...always...
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