Carrying on Indian reservations?

Carrying on Indian reservations?

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    Carrying on Indian reservations?

    I'll be spending some time in the Southwest this year, in states where my concealed carry paperwork is honored.

    My question is: what about carry on Indian lands? Reservations have a certain amount of legal autonomy, are concealed carry licenses honored there, or Will There Be Trouble?


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    Try parts of this link:

    http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin...ghlight=Indian

    They are Sovereign Nations, so a lot of very careful research should be undertaken. Additionally, I would always check with the Tribal Authorities on any reservation you might decide to visit.

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    It's been my impression from reading past posts regarding carry on Indian reservations that the Potential for Trouble is Great, and Rock and Glock has it right about much research is a really good idea. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to document any contact with Tribal Authorities via email, fax or snail mail in much the same way some people have been handling the FL permit/ good as a PA non-res question...

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    I've always understood that carry within reservations is illegal becuase they are federal grounds.
    As well each nation being soverign as indicated above generally does not allow as much either.

    Do your homework and maybe give thought toward investment in a less lethal tool and/or a knife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    I've always understood that carry within reservations is illegal becuase they are federal grounds.
    As well each nation being soverign as indicated above generally does not allow as much either.
    There is no general prohibition against carrying on federal land.

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    It can be kinda of iffy especially these smaller tribes have rules & regs that are difficult to find. Steve48

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    We have several reservations here in Oregon and as long as you are on a state highway traveling thru the res and not stopping you are OK. If you plan to stop or detour off the highway you must have authorization by the tribal administration.

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    If you're planing on visiting any Reservations, I'd say contact the tribal police/leaders and ask them about it. I would be willing to bet most won't have a problem with you carrying if all your doing is visiting the Reservation for a couple of hours.

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    Reservations Can Be A Bad Experience...

    Your lawyers will even have a tough time there too...

    The only time I've been to reservation property is when I felt like contributing to the 'Indian Education Fund' (casino)...and never armed...

    Tread lightly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackeagle View Post
    There is no general prohibition against carrying on federal land.
    Huh?!

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    Federal land is different than federal property such as a military base. Not sure if that makes any difference but it might.
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    Very iffy and the answer is probably no. I travel a lot through the Navajo Nation on the highway in northern AZ. My AZ permit says the Tribe 'should' honor the permit while on the highway. The 'should' bothers me. The sticky part is if tribal police want to talk with you after pulling off the highway to get gas on tribal lands. I try and not speed and not gas up until I get off the lands.

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    When I was in NM, some of the local tribes did not allow for loaded weapons on their land by nonmembers. You needed tribal approval to carry concealed on their land. This unloaded weapon rule applied to easements, also. This really bothered some of the CCW folks who had to cross tribal easements everyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    Huh?!
    A lot of people seem to think that carrying a firearm is prohibited on all federal land, but that's just not the case. Carry is allowed in National Forests (unless prohibited by state law) and BLM land (acreage wise, National Forests and BLM constitute the vast majority of federal land). It is prohibited in National Parks, but that's not because of any general prohibition against carrying on federal land, it's because National Park Carry is explicitly prohibited under Title 36 of the CFR.

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    There are 7 Indian Reservations in Montana. They are the Flathead, Blackfeet, Rocky Boys, Fort Belknap, Fort Peck, Crow and Northern Cheyenne.

    As far as I can determine, state law applies on reservation land with no specific prohibitions or restrictions in excess of state law.

    State law prohibits concealed carry in schools, government buildings, banks, places that serve alcohol for on-premises consumption, & trains. These restrictions would therefore apply on tribal lands also.


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