US Concealed Carry Association
This is a discussion on US Concealed Carry Association within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; What I have seen of the site Tim is excellent - plus, reading the ''Armed Citizen Solution'' series.
I hope folks can feel that any ...
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June 27th, 2006 03:34 PM
What I have seen of the site Tim is excellent - plus, reading the ''Armed Citizen Solution'' series.
I hope folks can feel that any misinterpretation is cleared up re costs - and also hope people will indulge sufficient to continue helping this go along from good to even better. Hang in there - you do have many friends out here.
Chris - P95
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June 27th, 2006 03:40 PM
that does bring up an idea. Why not have an "open house" just for CC members (or open to all) where they can go for one day or for an hour (whatever you think would be time enough to evaluate the site and then decide whether the increased cost is worth it). You can put in restrictions on some of the more premium parts or restrict downloads (if you can do that), etc..
Make a post and have it stickied here so that people can go and take a looksey for themselves.
June 27th, 2006 03:53 PM
I will definitely sign up
The cost of the magazine and web site together sound a little pricey but I just wanted to step back and do a reality check.
It just dawned on me that of all the gun mags I used to get or pick up in the store, Concealed Carry Magazine is the ONLY one that puts a smile on my face as soon as I see it.
I definitely re-read the stories over to make sure I don't miss anything.
If the web site is even close to the magazine in quality, I will sign up.
The reality check is that adding the web site costs about the same as two boxes of 45ACP. For this kind of quality, I will find the extra cash.
Keep up the good work Tim!
June 27th, 2006 04:04 PM
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I confess this is the part that confuses me. You are selling a one year subscription to Concealed Carry Magazine for #39.00, which includes a USCCA membership.
You will ALWAYS be able to renew your subscription/membership at the $39/year price.
If you don't want to pay the extra money for the website access... Well, you don't have to!
But my USCCA membership included with my magazine subscription does not allow me full access to the web site. For this I must pay another $30.00. So it is not really a full membership, is it? I believe others are thinking along these same lines.
Perhaps you should change your advertising. Charge $39.00 for a one year subscription to CCM only or charge $69.00 for a one year subscription to CCM and a full USCCA membership with web site access. Explain the differences between the two price levels. Example: "Here is what you get for $39.00, but for only an additional $30.00, you are entitled to the following benefits, etc., etc.".
Marketed this way, you eliminate the confusion and animosity. Two choices. Pay the lower price for the magazine only, or pay the higher price for the magazine/membership/web site package.
Edit: Posted after Tim's last response at 1:21 PM.
2nd Edit: Another question just occurred to me. What does the members' forum on the USCCA web site have to offer that CombatCarry.com doesn't?
Last edited by Captain Crunch; June 27th, 2006 at 04:25 PM.
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June 27th, 2006 04:32 PM
Hey guys... I don't blame you for being a little confused. I've changed things with the marketing/pricing of USCCA/CCM more than our wives/girlfriends change clothes. (No offense, Betty)
Here is the deal... This all started when I started selling "back-issue" archive CDs to new members that were signing up. Heck, over HALF the new people would buy these CDs. So I figure, let's build a website that offers a LOT more content than what is on the CD. Then people don't have to keep buying these back-issue CDs.
So I built the new site. I've tried to simplify things by just offering two choices.
1.) USCCA "Full" Membership $69/yr.
2.) USCCA "Magazine Only" Membership $39/yr.
That's it. If you think the website is worthless then you can pick option 2. If you like the website then you can pick option 1.
I've also done away with the automatic membership cards. I can't tell you how many people asked me, "What the heck is this thing for?"
My answer was,"Uhh... I'm not really sure."
One more thing....
Wayne. I really like your idea of an "OPEN HOUSE" for combatcarry folks. That is a GREAT idea.
Once I get out from under this MOUNTAIN of glitches and hiccups, I will do JUST THAT.
I will create a FREE one-week pass for all combatcarry members. I know you guys mean well and I REALLY appreciate all of the constructive feedback.
June 27th, 2006 05:19 PM
Thanks for clearing things up! I am looking forward to the "open house."
June 27th, 2006 10:05 PM
+1 - Thanks
Originally Posted by Blackhawk6
June 27th, 2006 10:17 PM
the web site's up. i just got my user name and password.
i looked around and it is pretty good. i'm still gonna have to think about the extra $$ at renewal time though.
it depends on cash available at that time whether i'll go full or just the mag.
June 28th, 2006 10:13 AM
Tim..... glad you finally added "Option 3" there. Now it makes more sense than before. I am sure that will make it abit easier to understand the 3 options.
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June 28th, 2006 12:58 PM
I can't say which way I'll go when renewal time comes up. I've never been happier with a magazine subscription, or new organisation before in my life!
I will continue on with the USCCA, one way or another. It's a good thing! The magazine really suits me, as it addresses the subject (CCW) I'm interested in, without the usual BS.
Maybe for me, the club membership and the "on-line" version of the magazine would be the best way to go, but I'll not decide on that until the time comes. After all, I can pass the mag around to help generate more interest, not quite so easy with just the Web version of it.
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June 28th, 2006 03:10 PM
June 29th, 2006 09:17 AM
Upped price or not, I just wish we had a USCCA type organisation in Canada.
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June 29th, 2006 10:04 AM
you make a very good point....count me in Tim.
Thanks for making me see a bit clearer Canuck
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June 29th, 2006 03:31 PM
I received my login and password and have to say you've done a very good job on the website, Tim. I'm sure the "openhouse" for CombatCarry members will be very appreciated and give them a chance to look the site over. I believe everyone benefits in their support of CCM and the USCCA.
Keep up the good work!
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June 29th, 2006 04:24 PM
I got my password and absolutely love the site. Well worth it to me.
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