Moving forward in Kansas

Moving forward in Kansas

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    Moving forward in Kansas

    I'm not puter smart. I hope this makes the trip. Came from our contact in Topeka today. If a mod can make the text appear, please do it. Thanx
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    A person is justified in the use of deadly force, if such person reasonably believes deadly force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to such person or a third person.


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    i could read it so it works out. it is a step forward, sure. things would be so much simpler if there were no limits to where to carry just who did the carrying. why the background checks, why the waiting period, why the fingerprints... if then they still thought "well, your still not good enough to carry here." the end result... BG still carries wherever he wants to.
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    Here you go:

    I just spoke with Candy Ruff and here is where we are at with HB2528.
    Monday morning Representatives Candy Ruff and Gary Hayzlett had a meeting
    with the Kansas League of Municipalities. After negotiations, here is how
    the bill will read. The state will not occupy the field on Open Carry or
    Discharging a Firearm in the city limits but the State will have total
    control over Concealed Carry. Cities will not be allowed to post no carry
    anywhere except for city buildings (not including the parking lots or actual
    property outside of the building) and they will be able to restrict
    employees from carrying on the job. They will do this through using the
    proper NO CCH signs or creating personnel policy but they cannot enact
    ordinances. They will NOT be able to post any parks, hiking trails,
    streets, sidewalks, parking lots, corner greenways or such. They may post
    city owned buildings only, not premises or parking lots. It will be clear
    that the State alone rules over Concealed Carry. The House Federal and
    State Affairs Committee will vote on this bill tomorrow and it is expected
    to pass. It will then go before the full House of Representatives, probably
    Tuesday, March 13th. When that date is confirmed I will put out a notice.
    We need as many people as possible to attend the House debate as a show of
    support for this bill. We also need to write every Representative and make
    our case and ask them to support this bill. As soon as I receive word on
    tomorrows vote in committee I will let you know. After we finish in the
    House it will be off to the Senate committee!

    There is one Representative who is on the House Federal and State Affairs
    Committee that needs special attention. Representative Ann Mah, District
    53, Topeka voted in favor of CCH last year and she has been somewhat a
    supporter in the past. However, she seems to be having a hard time
    understanding what this bill does. It would be very helpful if we tried to
    explain our position to her and made every effort to persuade her. She
    especially needs to hear from anyone who is a voter in her district so pass
    the word to anyone you know in Topeka. Rep Ann Mah may be reached at
    1-785-296-7668 or email at mah@house.state.ks.us.

    As far as carrying in the car, good news! After consultation with Paul
    Morrison in the Attorney General's office the following decision has been
    made. A CCH permit holder will be allowed to carry a loaded gun in their
    purse, fannypack, briefcase, backpack or carrying case. They will be
    allowed to put the loaded gun in the glove box or console or under the car
    seat or in a door side pocket as long as they occupy the vehicle and the gun
    is concealed. This will be written as a new Rule and Regulation and added
    to the existing Rules and Regulations for Concealed Carry. They will be
    using case law to substantiate this so there is no need to have a bill
    passed to enact this. Remember, this has not been officially amended or
    announced and is not currently written in the rules and regulations so we
    must abide by the current rules and regulations until they are revised. I
    will let everyone know when it is.


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    Good news. Even better, I noticed Paul Morrison is doing exactly what I was hoping from him.
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    Looking and sounding better all the time!! Steve48

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    I sent my email off to Ann. It took her an hour to respond to my last one and she sounded positive in that exchange. We will see.

    Ann,

    I understand that you are on the House Federal and State Affairs Committee. I further understand that HB2528 is to come before your committee for a vote soon. It is my understanding that HB2528 clarifies the municipalities and States responsibilities concerning Concealed Carry. I want to urge you to support this bill. It is my understanding that it makes Concealed Carry the states responsibility and still allows the municipalities to regulate open carry. I think that it goes a long way to insuring that the intent of the Kansas Senate and House is not usurped or interpreted to become meaningless by the local governments.



    Thank you for you time,


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    Great news. One of the law schools I am applying to is in Topeka, so I may be a KS resident soon. If I am,it's nice to know I will be able to tote a gun.
    When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.

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    My responce from Ann:

    Mark:

    The bill had some serious flaws in it, but I understand the sponsors and the city reps have worked out a compromise. I'll be interested to see it. Thanks for writing.

    Ann Mah
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