March 15th, 2007 12:15 PM
OC is perfectly legal in NC, the reason I don't practice this is pretty much inline with what .02 has stated. IF BG is intent on robbing a place and he sees you with your sidearm, you just became target #1 and he will take you out. You may have time to react and take him out first, you may not, but this ain't Bonanza, bullets hurt!! I feel much better having the element of surprise. Not to mention the LEO look negatively on OC because they think you are trying to imitate a cop, and I can see their point. Of course they can't charge you with anything that will stick, but I choose to avoid the confrintation to start with. I do agree if everybody OC'd it would be a different world. I reckon it is one of those catch 22's, I would like it if everyone would OC, but I am not willing to be the guinea pig. For those of you who do OC. I have nothing against your decision, it is a decision to mage just like CC, but I would use a good retention holster like the Bianchi Carry Loc system.
BTW. Mike did you ever check out the carry loc system for your 23? I am telling you it is the best holster I have used and it is my daily holster for my 23.
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March 15th, 2007 09:17 PM
It's only wrong when I'm not with you to get the discount too!!
Originally Posted by OPFOR
March 15th, 2007 10:48 PM
I prefer the Blackhawk SERPA holsters for this type of thing. But both pretty much do the same thing so to each his own.
Originally Posted by NCHornet
March 27th, 2007 10:44 AM
March 27th, 2007 10:56 AM
Bet if the donut shop was being robbed while they were present they would see the cops with guns in an entirely different light....
Originally Posted by Colin
March 27th, 2007 11:34 AM
I agree with 0.02
OC would make you target number one for the meth head at the gas station. This is the main reason I don't OC.
Plus being an Historical recreationists I can look kinda scruffy by todays standards.
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March 27th, 2007 09:19 PM
I'd deffinately like for Texas to get on the Open Carry wagon. Summer in Houston isn't a fun environment to be layering on clothing, and there is the off chance that your cover garment may accidently pull up and reveal your weapon.....which is a BIG no no for a CHL holder.
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March 27th, 2007 09:48 PM
Recently, I went to a Subway restaurant a few hundred yards from the front doorway of a business three Federal agencies (and me) were executing a search warrant. I was open carrying with my gun secured to my Specter Gear belt with a lanyard. I kept my dominant hand over the gun for (additional) retention purposes....despite being in the company of a bunch of similarly "dressed" agents, I felt strange with my gun exposed for all to see. As a plainclothes-type of LEO, I am used to and promote concealed carry.
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April 4th, 2007 12:53 PM
This Discussion is VERY Location Dependent.
I can easily understand the differences in OC opinions being heavily dependent on location. If I lived in a major Metro Area my concerns would be very different that those of a non-LEO in a rural corner of a Southern state. I live in the Kentucky backwoods. Public wearing of a pistol (or packing a shotgun) attracts little more than a casual glance around here. Most everybody; owns them, knows how to use them, been around them & aren't afraid of them. It sometimes looks kinda' odd (like a roofer wearing his nail pouch into a corner cafe) but the sight of a gun simply doesn't provoke the same type of "rabid" response as it often does in a more sophisticated, cosmopolitan setting. In fact, you almost make-up your own reasons why a guy may have a pistol on his belt. Maybe he has a particularly dangerous bull loaded in his stock trailer parked outside. Maybe he's been out in the tobacco patch, just got off his tractor & forgot it was there. Maybe there's rats in his corn crib. Maybe he saw a big ole' Cotton Mouth (Water Moccasin) at the pond while bass fishin' with his Grandson. There's a BUNCH of perfectly rational reasons to have, see or wear a pistol around these parts. And almost none of them involve Badguys, Meth addicts or Convenient Store robbery (Thank God). There's just one word for a guy around here without a sharp pocketknife & a stout pistol...a tourist.
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April 4th, 2007 02:04 PM
It's very simple for me. If I open carry where I live, I'll be going to jail and losing my license to carry. That said, I doubt I'd open carry even if I could... I don't like for the "sheep" as we like to call them, to know I have a gun. I'm not worried about them being scared, just worried about how they might stereotype me unfairly. Why giv'em that opportunity?
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April 10th, 2007 01:25 PM
My question is in what states can you open carry?
April 10th, 2007 01:30 PM
Joe - only way to know is to check all state's laws. In many cases it can be legal - because it ain't listed as ILegal!
Whether however you ''get away'' unchallenged and with no hassles is another matter!
AZ is one good example of an OC state and in VA OC is required within drinks premises. AK and VT are good too.
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April 13th, 2007 10:14 PM
Click on open carry map. I don't know if it's up to date, but there it is...
April 14th, 2007 09:46 AM
I checked it out and found that I liked the Blackhawk SERPA a little better. I carry my 23 in a SERPA now and I have not found a holster that I like as much as this one.
Originally Posted by NCHornet
It has cooled down again but will warm up again soon but, while it was warm here for a few weeks I was open carrying all over the place. I have now expanded my open carry territory to include not only my little town o Arlington but, Bartlett and Cordova (Suburbs closer to Memphis) and will soon actually open carry in Memphis, when I have a reason other than going to work to travel into the hell hole known as Memphis.
Only 2 comments so far and both have been positive.
April 14th, 2007 04:34 PM
I think this sums it up very succinctly. Pick your poison.
Originally Posted by 0.02
I carry concealed 95% of the time. The only time I open carry is to help educate the sheeple and even then I only do it when I have other armed citizens with me. Feels like a reasonable compromise to me.
Which is right? "There ain't no good guy, there ain't no bad guy; there's only you and me and we just disagree".
Like I said, pick you poison . . . . respectfully!
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