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    Quote Originally Posted by gregma View Post
    Isn't it so nice that Fred agrees that states should *allow* citizens to carry weapons?


    Yeah, it's great that Communities *grant* second amendment rights. And all this time I thought it was the "Constitution" that did it. Silly me.
    I noticed that as well and was getting ready to comment. However, the Constitution does not grant the rights listed in the Bill of Rights, including RKBA. It lists the rights given to us by our Creator, and states that they cannot be removed.

    That said, I agree that it is far to commonly assumed that communities have the option to allow or disallow the bearing of arms. It's not optional, folks. Can you imagine a community deciding to disallow the right to free speech, or to vote?

    He still has my vote though.

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    This hits the nail on the head!!!

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    Great article. Thank you, and thanks to Mr. Thompson!

    Why is it that when I read articles like that, I have to slap my head and say to myself, "That's the succinct way to say it that you've been searching for and turning into 1500 word diatribes, Jeff!"?!

    Once in a while, I churn out what I think is a well-wrought pro-gun viewpoint statement. Then I read things like this, and Ann Coulter's piece ("sad-free zone") and others (Jacob Sullum, Ted Nugent) and I realize that I have a way to go before I can construct a really cogent pro-gun piece.

    And I used to fancy myself a decent writer, till I read these recent articles.

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    I hope he becomes our next President.
    I doubt that. It seems like it's always the worst candidates from each party who get the nominations.

    My pessimistic prediction: the '08 Republican ticket will be McCain/Giuliani, and the Democratic ticket will be H. Clinton and some other freak.

    If the right people got the nomination, we'd have decent people on both tickets, like Thompson/Paul vs. Obama (I don't agree with all his views, but he seems like a decent person unlike Hillary. He also said in one of his books, "I think [America] needs more engineers and fewer lawyers.") But I don't think that will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goawayfarm View Post
    Those are great links! I think I may be swaying back to Thompson.

    And I agree, I don't agree with actually quite a few things with President Bush. I doubt I will ever find anyone who agrees with 100% of what I agree with. I'm WAY too conservative ;)

    The only other contender I can think of is Tom Tancredo. But doing research on him, I'm thinking Thomson is actually ahead of him in gun rights.

    Great post, and thank you for the links. Guess more studying on my part is necessary!

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregma View Post
    And I agree, I don't agree with actually quite a few things with President Bush. I doubt I will ever find anyone who agrees with 100% of what I agree with. I'm WAY too conservative ;)
    That's because Bush is NOT conservative. He's a neo-con, which is something else altogether. Don't confuse classical conservatism (small government, fiscal responsibility) with neoconservatism (big government, huge deficit spending, excessive involvement in other countries' affairs). Don't forget, Bush was all set to sign the renewal of the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 if it had been passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwolsten View Post
    My pessimistic prediction: the '08 Republican ticket will be McCain/Giuliani, and the Democratic ticket will be H. Clinton and some other freak.


    I'm too much of a pessimist to expect that you are wrong, but I sure hope you are....

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    Brilliant. I concur.

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    Thanks for sharing the quote from Thompson. I hadn't heard much from him, but I am encouraged and will dig deeper.

    That seems a little more meaningful than Mitt's "pro-2A" stance (apparently F'g mass gun owners is pro-2!!!)

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    Fred appears to be the real deal and I hope he is!

    Giuliani will not be on the Republican Ticket, there is no way the grassroot primary voters will put a Pro Abortion, Pro Gay Marrage, and Anti Gun candidate on the ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregma View Post
    Isn't it so nice that Fred agrees that states should *allow* citizens to carry weapons?



    Yeah, it's great that Communities *grant* second amendment rights. And all this time I thought it was the "Constitution" that did it. Silly me.

    Sorry, doesn't sound like much of a true 2A supporter. Where "People" shall have not have their rights infringed! He wants it licensed and controlled. Sounds like an infringement to me.

    And another note. How many pro-2A bills did Mr. Thompson write, sponsor, or co-sponsor the entire time he was a senator?

    Tough words... Where's the action?

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    Is it better to embrace the current situation, or support someone like Fred?
    I guess you can be critical of anyone who is not exactly like you desire him to be, but that will not improve the situation.
    Be a critic, and help prevent improvements 'cause they are not perfect in your estimation.

    Regards,
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    Last edited by JerryM; April 21st, 2007 at 09:59 AM. Reason: Removed a couple of comments I consider inappropriate. JMM

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    I don't know about you folks but I was really worried about the Republican ticket until I heard Fred say he is thinking about it.

    Finally someone I can get excited about!!

    Go Fred!!
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    He has my vote.............................
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