3 dead in mall Shooting (Merged)

3 dead in mall Shooting (Merged)

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    3 dead in mall Shooting (Merged)

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    Three people, including a gunman, are dead after a shooting incident at a Kansas City shopping center, a police official tells FOX News.

    There are three dead bodies at the Ward Parkway shopping center, one being the shooter, according to Tony Sanders of the Kansas City Police Department.

    Preliminary witness accounts gave conflicting accounts of exactly where the shootings occurred. Television video showed a window shot out at a Starbucks coffee shot but some witnesses said the shooting occurred shortly after 3:30 p.m. at a Target store.

    Aaron Washington, 34, a worker at Target, said the shooting appeared to happen near store's entrance into the into mall.

    He said he was coming back from lunch when he heard gunshots.

    "The only person we saw was a black gentleman holding his eye. The man had apparently been shot," Washington said.

    Yesenia Erives, 11, of Kansas City, said she was seeing a movie at a movie theater in the mall when she heard two gunshots.

    "Then a worker from the theaters, he said to go back in the theater because there's a guy who shot some people," she said.

    The theater was evacuated and the mall was shutdown, with the surrounding streets also closed down.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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    another one? People are goin' nuts!

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    Yes, I believe they are....... The Anti's are really going to go at it now.

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    another one? People are goin' nuts!
    People aren't really goin nuts any more than usual. The media likes to sensationalize things, and when they have something they know is a hot button issue they do all they can to "showcase" it. Right now because of VT and other events, mass murder shootings are that thing for the media, so such events will get more coverage than they would normally or if say, killer bees from Africa were the big issue of the time (remember the hoopla the media made about those BTW).

    Too bad for the victims. I wonder what the mall's policy was?
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    As the news comes in we might find out that this was a brave CCWer who stopped the situation from going any further, in which case our cause will be in good light, admittedly at the expense of human life bad as that is.

    I am willing to bet a dollar to a donut that the perp was not carrying legally, which once again will prove that BGs don't care whatever laws are implemented.

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    How can that be? Every mall I know of is posted no firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0.02 View Post
    As the news comes in we might find out that this was a brave CCWer who stopped the situation from going any further, in which case our cause will be in good light, admittedly at the expense of human life bad as that is.

    I am willing to bet a dollar to a donut that the perp was not carrying legally, which once again will prove that BGs don't care whatever laws are implemented.
    I was going to ask myself if anyone knew if the mall was another "gun-free" zone? Does anyone else wonder if all of the media "worship" that is given to the individuals like the Virginia Tech killer encourage other deranged individuals to follow suit?

    I apologize, I'm asking the choir.

    I remember all of the media members who defended the First Amendment right of Mr. Trejbal to publish the list of Virginia CCW permit holders in the Roanoke Times. Perhaps we need to start licensing those who exercise their First Amenment freedoms...but of course, we don't need to do so. Instead, we all need to recognize that the freedoms enshrined in our Constitution and Bill of Rights apply equally to all and are equally important components of our liberty, the rights that should accrue to all people, everywhere.

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    Still developing, but its being reported the gunman was shot inside the mall, had shot a police officer earlier in the day, and had some sort of long gun.

    A shooting at a Kansas City shopping center has left at least three dead, including the gunman, police said.

    Two of the victims were shot about 3:30 p.m. in the parking lot of the Ward Parkway Center in south Kansas City. The gunman went inside the mall and is believed to have fired more shots, wounding at least two people, police spokesman Tony Sanders said.

    The man was shot to death inside the mall, but police were still trying to determine exactly who shot him, Sanders said. His body remained inside the mall early Sunday evening.

    Sanders said the entire incident began about 2 p.m. at another location, when police went to a home to investigate a report of a person who had not been seen by relatives for days. The person was found dead and his car was missing, Sanders said.

    Around 3:15 p.m., an officer was shot in the arm after pulling over a man who was driving the victim's car. The officer, whose wound was not life-threatening, returned fire. The car took off and was later seen at the mall.

    Police received several calls from people who saw a man with a "long gun" at the mall, Sanders said. The gunman shot two people in the parking lot, killing them, then went inside the mall and fired more shots, Sanders said.

    The mall, one of the city's busiest shopping centers, was shut down and officers were going through each store, Sanders said.
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    just keep refreshing the story, it seems to be changing/new info all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob The Great View Post
    another one? People are goin' nuts!
    People have been for a long, long time. Rats in a cage.

    The Ward Parkway Shopping Center is advertising for more security guards, BTW. $9.50/hr to start. Uncertain whether they disarm them, first, or not.
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    3 dead in mall Shooting

    On Fox News just now - a mall in Kansas City, a crazy, and "... possibly an AK-47..."

    Anybody know which side of the river this is on? Or if it's posted?

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    No doubt the Libs are salivating over the possibility that this criminal used some type of "assault weapon" so they can push their new AWB through.

    I too hope that this is balanced by the possibility of a citizen who was carrying being the one who shot and killed this evil criminal.
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    My Wife No Longer Wonders...

    Why I carry at the local mall...she is waiting for her new holster...

    Stay armed...stay safe!

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    I always ''mall carry'' too - plus top awareness but heck - having heard this after being out all pm - just sickens me - on so many levels.
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    Ill withhold on speculation on the shooter and firearms involved and allow the story to come out . Prayers for the family's of the dead and/or wounded . Also a prayer that our gvt. officials will have an epiphany and realize that restrictions of firearms only affect the law abiding since It seems the legal prohibition of murder does not have much effect on people inclined to violate it .
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