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    I always follw the CHL laws even when I do not agree with them, it is illegal to carry inside the school or at any sporting events here in Texas.
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    The "school" issue is a big one for me because of the way NY law is written. While my children are not yet in school, this law still effects me.
    265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
    A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
    degree when:
    (1)...
    (2)...
    (3) He or she knowingly has in his or her possession a rifle, shotgun
    or firearm in or upon a building or grounds, used for educational
    purposes, of any school, college or university, except the forestry
    lands, wherever located, owned and maintained by the State University of
    New York college of environmental science and forestry, or upon a school
    bus as defined in section one hundred forty-two of the vehicle and
    traffic law, without the written authorization of such educational
    institution; or
    ...
    Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree is a class A misdemeanor.
    My wife works at a hospital and on the same "grounds" there is a medical and dental school...so I can't even go to pick her up from work with a gun in the car unless I stay off of the property.

    ..short answer is that I don't carry on school property in NY

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    In Kansas, you can carry on school grounds if you are dropping your kids off at school but you have to leave quickly. Steve48

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    Do you carry at a school?
    It's specifically not disallowed, in Oregon. So, yes.

    "It does not do to leave a dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him."

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    There be dragons at schools, public parks, restaurants, the town square, the shopping mall, the gas station, crossing the street, scouting your neighborhood, montoring the crosswalks where your children walk to school ... basically, anywhere you go, they go. There are only so many ways one can be prepared. First and foremost: don't be disarmed without a prayer.
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    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
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    Actually carrying a loaded gun on school property in Virginia (except for the permit holder remaining in his car with gun concealed) will result in a VERY bad day. Class 6 Felony.

    At a minimum - Felonly conviction with permanent loss of right to possess a firearm.

    Very bad ju ju. Not worth the risk. Also, if you carry a knife, the blade must be less than 3 inches in length to be legal on school property.
    fortiter in re, suaviter in modo (resolutely in action, gently in manner).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulG View Post
    At a minimum - Felonly conviction with permanent loss of right to possess a firearm.
    Dumb. As if an upstanding citizen's ability to defend him/herself constitutes being a bad guy. Murder, rape, aggravated assault ... now, those are felonies. Minding one's own business and simply being able to defend against such violence? Such people are wise, seeking only to stay alive and live their lives. Criminalizing upstanding citizens and forcibly disarming them as if they were the ones to be feared is simple abject stupidity. Evil, pure and simple.

    Preachin' to the choir.
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    ccw9mm - right there with ya!

    In Utah, they can carry in schools. Where's all the blood that is supposed to be running on the school grounds?

    Oh Yeah. . . . the bad guys are too afraid of getting shot to perform their evil there.
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    in PA I can carry to drop my sister off at school but cant get out unless I disarm. If I go to the soccer practice field same deal, but if the next day I go for a club practice I can carry. HOW STUPID
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonofASniper View Post
    Yes, it is legal in Oregon.
    same here. gotta love Oregon (except for the rain and hippies)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulG View Post

    Very bad ju ju. Not worth the risk.
    Would it have been worth the risk if VT were to happen at a grade school and you were there?
    just posing a question, I don't mean to second guess your decision....
    Man these laws are so stupid they make my blood boil....
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    can't in CT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post
    Would it have been worth the risk if VT were to happen at a grade school and you were there?
    just posing a question, I don't mean to second guess your decision....
    Man these laws are so stupid they make my blood boil....
    I can't easily answer that. It's the same question I wrestle with all the time.

    The thought of doing jail time for exercising my God given right (also guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment) makes me sick.

    But having to face a VT type situation when I could have been armed and made a difference if I just disobeyed the law doesn't give me a warm fuzzy either.

    Damn, like you said, these laws are so stupid!
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    SonofA Sniper...

    Quote Originally Posted by SonofASniper View Post
    Yes, it is legal in Oregon.
    Just WHAT is legal in OR schools...CCW in the buildings?

    Curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Just WHAT is legal in OR schools...CCW in the buildings?

    Curious...

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    Yes. Basically schools are not on the "prohibited places" list, in fact very very few places are in Oregon.
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    Indiana "Victim- defenseless zone" School Zone

    1,000 feet from a school, preschool,elementary, High school, UNLESS you are dropping off a student from your car. Not legal to lock the firearm in your car when on school grounds. Makes a visit to my grand children's school a real problem as I always carry! Either a person violates the law and risk a Felony or go defenseless. Makes no sense to me either.

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