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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White View Post
    most school are target rich environments opps i mean gun free zones for the honest people

    in Michigan you can drop your kid off at school packing as long as you don't get out of the car
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    I believe the "no get out of the car" thing is preempted by the update that declares that that parking areas of Gun free zones are specifically NOT gun free zones. At least that's how I interpeted it somewhere deep within the cobwebs of my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Just WHAT is legal in OR schools...CCW in the buildings?
    Concealed carry anywhere, anytime, for any reason, in any manner so long as it's concealed and otherwise complies with the CHL. Treat it like a grocery store or the public sidewalk in front of your home. It's that open. Due to the state's preemption clause, no agency, department or other gov't unit can dictate otherwise; it must be passed in the legislature.

    Hi ho! Hi ho! It's off to carry I go ...

    Pretty much, in Oregon there's very little reason to find anyplace truly against the law for concealed carry, except the courthouse, posted police areas, the secure area at the airports. Unless you're arrested, in a given year I don't find any reason to cross paths with a forced disarmament zone. (US Post Office has alternatives.)

    Both Portland and Beaverton grouse and have their little laws, but the CHL trumps all of that. Open carry, outside of town, no CHL required (I believe) with handguns treated similarly to rifles in that regard. Full autos. Carry one, carry ten. It's pretty darned open. And very little blood runs in the streets because of the openness. If anything, it's far riskier for a felon to ply his trade here than in many places. And that's as it should be.
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    It's completely legal in California with a CCW License.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Concealed carry anywhere, anytime, for any reason, in any manner so long as it's concealed and otherwise complies with the CHL. Treat it like a grocery store or the public sidewalk in front of your home. It's that open. Due to the state's preemption clause, no agency, department or other gov't unit can dictate otherwise; it must be passed in the legislature.

    Hi ho! Hi ho! It's off to carry I go ...

    Pretty much, in Oregon there's very little reason to find anyplace truly against the law for concealed carry, except the courthouse, posted police areas, the secure area at the airports. Unless you're arrested, in a given year I don't find any reason to cross paths with a forced disarmament zone. (US Post Office has alternatives.)

    Both Portland and Beaverton grouse and have their little laws, but the CHL trumps all of that. Open carry, outside of town, no CHL required (I believe) with handguns treated similarly to rifles in that regard. Full autos. Carry one, carry ten. It's pretty darned open. And very little blood runs in the streets because of the openness. If anything, it's far riskier for a felon to ply his trade here than in many places. And that's as it should be.
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    The other two no-no places that ccw9mm didn't mention are the national parks (crater lake, john day fossil beds, and I can't remember the third one) and Indian reservation(s). We actually only have one Indian reservation. We have serveral Indian casinos, but their lands are in tribal trusts, and are subject to state law. The tribes don't like that, and will swear up and down that they are protected as a reservation.

    Overall, there are very few places that you are not allowed to conceal carry in Oregon. The people's republic of Portland right now has a bill in the legislature that if passed, would give the Port of Portland Authoritie the power to regulate firearms as they see fit. I don't think it is going to pass though.

    Now I just wish that Oregon would seek reciprocity with other states. Right now, Oregon will not recognize any out of state licenses.
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    As a citizen of Oregon and a current student at a state owned university I am quite annoyed that the administration has an anti-gun policy that prohibits fire-arms/weapons on campus, including concealed carry handguns. This clearly is in violation with Oregon state law which protects CHL owners on publicly owned school grounds. So until the state law is changed (hopefully never) I will exercise my right to bear arms. I just wish they didn't promote such ant-gun paranoia. Ive done my research I know that state law protects conceal carry on public school grounds but I have yet to figure out where the universities think they get the power to outlaw such things. Any further info on this would be welcome.

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    Legal in the communist state of california?

    This is along the same lines of not allowing soldiers to have ammunition for their service weapons at their companies. If those folks up at Fort Dix had pulled off their plans, the MPs would have had a heck of a time stopping them before alot of my comrads were on the deck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halifax View Post
    Ive done my research I know that state law protects conceal carry on [Oregon] public school grounds but I have yet to figure out where the universities think they get the power to outlaw such things.
    They don't have the power, nor the authority, nor the right. Oregon's state preemption clause has seen to that. The Oregon state legislature wisely realized that the petty predilections of bureaucrats and functionaries should hold no sway over one's right to defend one's self, when the chips are down.

    Those functionaries don't, however, need to give you an education if they choose to kick you out. That's a power they do have. At which point, in direct opposition to their neanderthal little policy, I'm sure you would have your pick of attorneys who would love nothing more than to poke a stick in the eye of such stupidity. Would that get you reinstated? Perhaps not. Would that erase from the minds of administrators of other campuses the image of you as a gun-toting risk to their campuses? Perhaps not. Them's the risks.
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    Illegal in Tennessee except to drop off and pick up, only.

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    Illegal in Iowa

    Possession of a weapon within 1000 feet of a school is illegal. When I bought my house in 2000 the elementary school was on the other end of town. Now they are building a new elementary school right behind my home.Our property lines abut. I can carry CCW or open on my own property even though I am only 630 feet from the building itself. But when I leave my home, I have to lock my weapon in a case and place it so it is not within reach from inside the vehicle. Once I clear the 1000 line I can stop, retrieve my weapon, and then go CCW. No real reason for it, it's just the law. We are a may issue state giving the county Sheriff complete discretion on issuing a CCW. We are working on changing a lot of Iowa's laws. IE. class 3, shall issue etc.
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    I only carry when and where it's legal, and if I need to go somewhere it's not allowed, I definitely try to get the law/rule changed.
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    Thanks for bringing this topic up as I had not thought about off campus school sports. I figured carrying to the football staduim we have for the school but Had not thought about the soccer field (Which matters more to me.)
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