Declared state of emergency

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    Declared state of emergency

    In North Carolina we have this dumb law.

    § 14‑288.7. Transporting dangerous weapon or substance during emergency; possessing off premises; exceptions.

    (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, it is unlawful for any person to transport or possess off his own premises any dangerous weapon or substance in any area:

    (1) In which a declared state of emergency exists; or

    (2) Within the immediate vicinity of which a riot is occurring.

    (b) This section does not apply to persons exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14‑269 with respect to any activities lawfully engaged in while carrying out their duties.

    (c) Any person who violates any provision of this section is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. (1969, c. 869, s. 1; 1993, c. 539, s. 192; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)
    This sucks because when I need my weapon the most I am forbidden from possessing it. When a hurricane hits and the governor declares a state of emergence I have to leave my gun at home. I don't like the "transport or possess off his own premises" the most, I cant even have it in my damn truck
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    Yep Yep Yep...really sucks here sometimes. Caught between the gun loving south, and the anti New York City/DC North. We get to carry all we want, as long as it is not anywhere we are likely to need to carry. Cause those areas are too scary for any firearm to exsist.
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    I wish I had the money and time to get the laws changed.
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    Maybe this can be changed

    I would think all municipalities learned from Katrina - when the New Orleans Police began to take citizens' weapons - then realized that wasn't the thing to do and backed off.

    Even the students at Miss. State began to carry in great numbers after that disaster.

    If we contact our legislators in enough numbers, maybe we can get them to take the time to rectify this rediculous statute. Most folks with any common sense will realize that after a natural disaster, or other malady is when the crazies come out of the woodwork in force.

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    Quick a riot!!! Grab the crack and the guns.


    What a dumb law.
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    Yep, that one bites the big one! Letter writing time again ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_kayaker View Post
    Quick a riot!!! Grab the crack and the guns.


    What a dumb law.
    But do not grab the cracked guns. Save those for the confiscation. Yes officer here are "all" my guns yep all broken imagine that.

    GRNC.org may be one of the best sources to get stuff like this changed in NC. Worth writing to them too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falkon View Post
    In North Carolina we have this dumb law.

    This sucks because when I need my weapon the most I am forbidden from possessing it. When a hurricane hits and the governor declares a state of emergence I have to leave my gun at home. I don't like the "transport or possess off his own premises" the most, I cant even have it in my damn truck
    Hmm well, this is interesting...didn't see that one before. I travel to NC every year from VA to visit relatives down south of Wilmington...usually during and/or near Hurricane season. How does this apply to an out of state CCWer(recognized by NC)? Does this mean we have to immediately vacate the state? What if it's not safe to do so and we're hunkered down (been there done that MANY times).
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    Quote Originally Posted by falkon View Post
    This sucks because when I need my weapon the most I am forbidden from possessing it.
    Hm. Let's see ... Class 1 Misdemeanor, or your life when you'll most need to defend it. With a good attorney, you could probably argue the injustice and insanity of a law whose sole purpose is disarmament at time of greatest need.

    Would I disarm simply because a politician declared everything within 50mi of my home a disaster area? Not exactly.
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    Yeah, it really is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Hm. Let's see ... Class 1 Misdemeanor, or your life when you'll most need to defend it. With a good attorney, you could probably argue the injustice and insanity of a law whose sole purpose is disarmament at time of greatest need.

    Would I disarm simply because a politician declared everything within 50mi of my home a disaster area? Not exactly.
    I was thinking the same thing. You can bet I will keep it with me and hope for the best.

    The out of state people have a good point. how do they keep it on property that they own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by falkon View Post
    In North Carolina we have this dumb law.



    This sucks because when I need my weapon the most I am forbidden from possessing it. When a hurricane hits and the governor declares a state of emergence I have to leave my gun at home. I don't like the "transport or possess off his own premises" the most, I cant even have it in my damn truck
    Sounds like a hold over from Reconstruction.
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    Has anybody tried bringing this issue up with the legislators who got the CCW permit passed into law? It might be argued that an inherent conflict is presented by the two laws that needs resolving. If that happens the other issues in the CCW law need addressing. The spots where it's weak like the no guns in eating establishments or at ANY paid venue. Like movie theatres.
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    I thought after katrina a federal law was signed saying, it's legal to transport.

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    This is probably something the NRA could fix. They lobbied the congress here in MO to pass a law that says the guv'mint can't take your guns away in a time of emergency. Here is a summary from an NRA-ILA email I got:

    Today, Missouri Governor Matt Blunt signed into law a fundamental protection against gun confiscation during declared states of emergencies. The bill signing ceremony took place at NRA's Opening Celebration this afternoon at the America's Center in St. Louis.
    If you want to fix this kind of thing, send money to the NRA and include a letter describing the problem in NC. They need as much power as we can give them, and that is directly through contributions. This is what the 'big gun lobby' is for.

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