Babies got a gun...10 months old........(Merged)

Babies got a gun...10 months old........(Merged)

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    Babies got a gun...10 months old........

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272074,00.html

    Illinois 10-Month-Old Issued Firearm Owner's Identification Card

    In Illinois, you're never too young to own a gun.

    That's what one father found out, when he registered his 10-month-old son for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card.

    Daily Southtown columnist Howard Ludwig registered his son —- Howard David Ludwig, nicknamed "Bubba" — online after the child's grandfather bought him a gun shortly after the baby's birth. Ludwig chronicled the road to gun ownership in a story that appeared in the Southtown on Sunday.

    "Anyone who wants to own a firearm or purchase a firearm needs a FOID card," Ludwig told FOX News. "I applied for one of these for my son. Now ironically he can’t buy a gun until he’s 18 years old, but if he wants to own one -- which he does thanks to Grandpa -- he needs one of these cards anyhow."

    The ID card, complete with a photo of the tot, allows the child to own a firearm and ammunition, and legally transport an unloaded weapon, even though Bubba has yet to learn how to walk.

    “Not only did I have his birthday on there, it had a picture of him giving a toothless grin," Ludwig said. "It asked for his weight, which I listed at 20 pounds, and his height, which is 2 feet, 3 inches.”

    The only tricky thing was getting his son, who has yet to learn how to write, to sign his John Hancock.

    "He can’t quite sign his name yet, so I just put a pen in his hand," Ludwig told FOX. "He made a scribble in the appropriate box and that came superimposed at the bottom of the card."

    Officials say that while it's rare to issue a FOID card to minors, it's not illegal.

    "There is nothing in the FOID Act or any of the rules that says anything about age restrictions," Lt. Scott Compton, of the Illinois State Police, told the elder Ludwig.

    Bubba got his ID card a few weeks after his father sent in the application and $5 fee.

    "It’s pretty rare that anyone would need a FOID card at 10 months, but the fact that they’re issuing them I think is pretty interesting as well,” he said.
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    Yeah - start 'em early

    Way to go (other than the need for a FOID in first place!!)


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    What's wrong with startin' 'em early?

    If I had a 10-month-old, I'd want him to have his constitutional rights, too!

    The fact is, it appears that it's legal to have gotten the kid the card. GOOD.

    If Illinois wants to force people to have to register with the state just to OWN a gun, then that's what they do. This kid's relatives bestowed a gun on him, so he needs the card to be legal. Great. That's just what happened. Surely the state can't complain now about the fact that this happened? It's within the state's own rules!
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    I wouldn't have said anything ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    What's wrong with startin' 'em early?

    Surely the state can't complain now about the fact that this happened? It's within the state's own rules!
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    .....all I got when I was 10 months old were toys.....some children have all the luck!
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    Buddy of mine had a kid, and while his wife was having the baby, an uncle called up all anxious and hurried like and said "Is it a boy or girl, I need to know what kind of gun to buy them"
    Apparently when he found out she was having the baby instead of going to the hospital he went to his favorite gun store and waited for the phone call.

    For those curious baby was a girl, and she got a nice winchester lever action 30-30. saddle rifle. Going to be engraved with her name and DOB. If I remember right if it had been a boy he would of gotten a nice 12ga turkey gun.
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    differant kind of story, maybe he will be ready for 2007 firearm
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    I saw this story on CNN today while running in the gym. Couldn't make out the closed captioning on the screen, but when I saw the headline i said quite loud 'you gotta be kidding me!' Thinking it had to be an anti-gun spin on it. Anyone know how the major news is playing it?

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    That kid is going to have one GREAT story at show-and-tell when he brings in his FOID.. or at least a great story to pass on to his kids and grandkids.

    Starting him off young to be law-abiding, legal and upstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limatunes View Post
    That kid is going to have one GREAT story at show-and-tell when he brings in his FOID..
    Yeah, I can see it now. The teacher will have heard: "My FOAD card allows me to own a firearm ...," and little Johnny will be introduced to the vice principal for the first time.
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    Attaboy! I'm a little jealous, I was 9 for my first gun.
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    Too bad the state will probably use this to amend current gun laws and make it tougher to own a firearm. I don't think this reporter did us any favors.

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    I personally think babies should be allowed to carry. I don't remember the Constitution saying anything about age limits..
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