Amazingly compelling pro-gun article!

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    Amazingly compelling pro-gun article!

    By following a link from the NRA website, I found this article.

    I was struck by the tell-it-like-it-is courage that Dave Workman exhibits as he flatly calls anti-gunners on the nonsense that they believe, and proudly argues for the right to self defense.

    The article is superbly written. I hope no one minds me reproducing it below, because it's important that as many people see it as possible.

    Gun-free zones are fatal mistakes
    Friday, May 11, 2007 3:37 AM
    By DAVE WORKMAN

    Reacting to questions from reporters about how to prevent future outrages like the murders of 32 students and teachers at Virginia Tech on April 16, Texas Gov. Rick Perry dispelled any notion that common sense has been eradicated by political correctness in the United States.

    Perry's sensible solution: Allow legally armed citizens to carry their defensive firearms anywhere -- schools, restaurants, churches. Perry correctly asserted that so long as such areas are legislated as "gun-free zones," killers who don't care about the law will enjoy risk-free opportunities in which good people cannot fight back.

    Perry's remarks were in stark contrast to comments made in Oklahoma recently by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. He's against guns on campuses, yet he admits the nanny state approach is no panacea to violence.

    "We can't guarantee complete security," he said. "We need to see what we can do as a government -- on the federal level, on the state level -- to ensure the safety of our students."

    Gonzales is wrong and Perry is right. Government should get out of the way and let people take care of themselves.

    Perry's remarks brought wails of anguish from the anti-gun mob, a political lobby more adept at dancing in the blood of murder victims to advance its agenda than it is in offering common-sense solutions that would help people keep from being murdered.

    Perhaps self-styled "progressives," especially those in Texas, have forgotten George Hennard, the lunatic who drove into the Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen on Oct. 16, 1991, and opened fire, killing 23 people, all of them disarmed by a then-existing state prohibition on concealed carry. Survivors haven't forgotten. One of them, former State Rep. Suzanna Gratia-Hupp, ran successfully to change the law, enabling Texans to fight back.

    Those who lobbied in state after state against concealed-carry statutes predicted that such laws would lead to bloodbaths. In a sense, they guaranteed such mayhem by demanding that some areas be gun-free zones, where law-abiding citizens may not carry their firearms. Armed citizens have gone through background checks and in many states have taken mandatory gun-safety courses. How many anti-gun liberals would tolerate such scrutiny and red tape just to exercise a constitutional right? If there is blood on anyone's hands, it is on theirs. The common denominator in all of this country's mass shootings in recent memory is that they happened in gun-free zones.

    Don't blame these monstrous crimes on the National Rifle Association or the Second Amendment Foundation. Blame them on the anti-gun lobby for pushing limitations on the public's right of self-defense.

    This country has tried it their way -- the way Gonzales would have it -- and all we have to show for it is a body count.

    It's time for a different approach. Perry's idea is simply a reminder of an earlier, simpler time, when everyone thought with the logic of a Boy Scout: Always be prepared.

    Why is it easy for Perry to understand that criminals and madmen do not make appointments to commit violent acts, but this fact eludes college presidents, liberal politicians, an attorney general and far too many pundits?

    Nobody is advocating anarchy. This is a matter of personal and community defense because the police are not our shepherds. In an emergency when seconds count and police are minutes away, individuals must act. We should abolish the concept of gun-free zones. Eliminate the term from the national vocabulary. Criminals don't obey it, and they shouldn't make the rules or benefit from them.

    Strengthen this philosophical shift with stand-your-ground laws that protect citizens who defend themselves and others from civil lawsuits and criminal prosecution.

    Nobody can stop every determined criminal or madman, but we might stop most of them, and save innocent lives in the process. If that makes anti-gunners uncomfortable, that's a small sacrifice for public safety.

    Dave Workman is senior editor of Gun Week, a national firearms publication owned by the Second Amendment Foundation.

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    Based on Gov. Perry's strong pro-gun, pro-carry statements, I wonder if the Texas legislature might be emboldened to pass an amendment to the TX carry law that rescinds the "30.06" provision!

    Wouldn't that be great?!

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    I doubt that. Private property is still private property. You have the right to regulate your own property in any way you see fit. Telling people that they had no choice other than to allow CCW on their property probably would not stand up to a judicial challenge in Texas.

    It could lead to no public buildings being off limits though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo_Four View Post
    I doubt that. Private property is still private property. You have the right to regulate your own property in any way you see fit. Telling people that they had no choice other than to allow CCW on their property probably would not stand up to a judicial challenge in Texas.

    It could lead to no public buildings being off limits though.
    I disagree, rescinding that law does not take away someones right to regulate their own property, it just takes away the wieght of law from a sign. If a property owner asks you to leave or to leave your gun outside, they still have every right to do so. There's a big difference between taking away the legal backing of signage and telling people they have to allow something on their property.

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    I just read that article reading my daily NRA email summary before coming to the forum tonight. A very good article showing a stark comparison between the common sense approach of the "Gov" and that of AG Gonzales!

    I do agree with Echo Four's remarks regarding "private property".

    But like he said, further on... It may lead the way to "public buildings" no longer being off limits.

    All we can do is remain vocal. It's the squeaky wheel that gets oil. You can't sit back and just post in these forums.... You have to get out and make the phone calls to the legislators and send the emails or snail mail.

    I know it's a pain! I get tired of getting those "canned" letters back from congressmen, but occasionally I do get my message through. I talk to a lot of Congressional Aides and I let them know that it isn't business as usual with the age of the internet and grassroots efforts cropping up all over the place. Some of them get the point.

    Fortunately for me.... almost all of my Congressional leaders who's district I belong to, already agree with me on gun issues. I get a lot of positive feedback from the "aides" of U.S. Sen. Kit Bond and even U.S. Rep. Ike Skelton (a democrate) on these issues. State Senators Del Scott and Rep. Shannon Cooper same way.

    But you got to contact them if you want change. I am now working on the other U.S. Senator, Clair McCaskill (democrate) letting "her people" know that she may be a one term Senator if she doesn't respond to the will of the people.
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    Very positive!
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    Owners of private property open to the public are already prohibited from violating the "civil rights" of people.

    Why should our Constitutional and Natural right of self protection take a back seat?

    Don't want CCW on your private property? Don't let ANY of the public in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smith&Wessonfan View Post
    Owners of private property open to the public are already prohibited from violating the "civil rights" of people.

    Why should our Constitutional and Natural right of self protection take a back seat?

    Don't want CCW on your private property? Don't let ANY of the public in.
    I agree as a factual statement regarding constitutional issue... but not very realistic or practical.

    If I were a business owner I would never post a No Gun sign... period, end of story....

    But, are you saying that the little old lady who may have an unrealistic phobia of guns not be allowed to partake in our capitalistic society and own a retail business if she doesn't allow guns in her bridal shop?

    I think anyone has the absolute right to post a sign in their business if they so choose. It is their business and their property!

    Now... if people choose to do business elsewhere, or if they choose to ignore the sign and carry a gun into the store anyways, that's those peoples choice as well.

    I don't think posting a sign in an establishment does a thing to curb crime in anyway and actually may encourage a crime to some extent. But I do think people have a "right" to post on their property if they want.
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    I'm surprised this ran in the Dispatch. Good article.
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