State Rep Becomes Pro-Gun After Attack

State Rep Becomes Pro-Gun After Attack

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    State Rep Becomes Pro-Gun After Attack

    This was reported on the Ohioans For Concealed Carry website:

    Ohio Rep Becomes Pro-Gun After Attack

    The Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting that State Representative Michael DeBose (D-Cleveland) is seeking an Ohio Concealed Handgun License after twice voting against the concealed carry laws that were passed in 2004.

    Unfortunately, like many people, it took the survival of a violent attack for Rep. DeBose to understand the importance of the innate right guaranteed by the Ohio Constitution: "The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security."

    The loud muffler on a car that slowly passed as he was finishing the walk caught his attention, though. When the car stopped directly in front of his house - three houses from where he stood - he knew there was going to be a problem.

    "There was a tall one and a short one," DeBose said, sipping on a McDonald's milkshake and recounting the experience Friday.

    "The tall one reached in his pocket and pulled out a silver gun. And they both started running towards me."

    "At first I just backed up, but then I turned around and started running and screaming."
    It is a terrible fact of life that we live in a society that includes dangerous people willing to rob and murder law-abiding citizens. Thankfully, this criminal chose not to fire and take Representative DeBose's life as he was running away.

    Hopefully, more and more people throughout our state and in our Statehouse will realize the importance of self-defense and follow in the footsteps of Representative DeBose in supporting Ohio's very successful concealed carry laws so that others may have the chance to not have their life ended by the whims of a crazed, armed robber.

    Representative DeBose now realizes that:

    "I was wrong," he said Friday.

    "I'm going to get a permit and so is my wife.

    "I've changed my mind. You need a way to protect yourself and your family.

    "I don't want to hurt anyone. But I never again want to be in the position where I'm approached by someone with a gun and I don't have one."

    DeBose said he knows that a gun doesn't solve Cleveland's violence problem; it's merely a street equalizer.

    "There are too many people who are just evil and mean-spirited. They will hurt you for no reason. If more people were packing guns, it might serve as a deterrent.

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    Benjamin Franklin once said, "he that would supplant a little liberty for a little safety deserves neither".

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    Beautiful when someone sees the light. It's a shame so many have to be held at gunpoint before they understand.
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    One of our Board of Director members from the Cleveland area contacted his office this morning offering to train him, his wife, and any interested legislators for their CHLs.
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    Well, I'm glad that he has actually changed his mind... That is, if he has. He certainly seems to have. The real proof will be the next time a vote comes up.

    The more usual reaction to this kind of thing is the adoption of a hugely hypocritical double standard. That is, for the politician to think that his life is somehow more important than the lives of "commoners." The result being that he believes HE should be allowed to defend his life and his family, while he continues to believe that OTHER people should NOT be allowed to do the same.

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    There are too many people who are just evil and mean-spirited
    That's the term Dems use to describe Republicans.

    I'm glad he is seeing the light!

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    Hopefully he feels that this new found enlightenment should pertain to the little people also, and not become an elitist, thinking only those in political positions need such tools.

    I don’t know the man, so I can’t say, but fingers crossed for Ohioans in the future.
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    Good thing, hopefully he will not only choose to carry buy to lobby on our (and his own) behalf.
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    This just goes to show that you cannot be totally safe anywhere. You need to take steps to insure your own safty.

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    This is one of the few (if any) times the BGs deserve cudos! Mmmm...maybe the antis will claim the NRA or some such pro-2A group is going around antimidating anti-gun legislators into coverting! Double mmm.....

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    What pisses me off about people of power like this is how abilities and exercising of them are okay for others only after they themselves have experienced and/or discovered a direct need for as much.
    As though prior to his own situation the calls and comments of very many others amongst his constituents and the country at larger who prior fell on deaf ears were nothing more than anecdotes and histrionics.

    I say deny him his permit request just as he voted to do so for his constituents and leave home to figure out alternative means to defend himself and his family. I say to him go buy a dog. Don't walk around your neighborhood at dusk or dark. Buy a cellphone and dial '9-1-1'. Leave the guns to the cops.
    Don't worry be happy is what I'd say to him just as he said and voted toward his constituents.

    These people kill me how they walk through life believing that because such and such has not happened to them then well it must not be of relevance and/or it only happens in bad neighborhoods or the 'inner city' and such other proven to be crap crap ass responses.

    What are we citizens supposed to do in the mean time, wait and hope & pray that our town and state lawmakers fall victim to a random crime and that they then might 'change their mind' so that they themselves might be able to defend themselves and as a secondary result we serfs too might enjoy similar same?

    Next time maybe he could in a calm voice talk to his attackers about how he voted against citizen defensive measures and that as such he is of no harm to them and to just take his wallet and go on their way.

    A hypocritical moron he is.

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    I read this on another site this morning and thought, too bad this experience doesn't happen to a lot of legislators. Maybe they would wise up if it did.

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    Great turnaround. Thanks for posting
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    Taaadddaaaa!!!!! Hey who turned ON the light?

    It only took an attempt on his life to make him realize he valued his life and wanted to protect it.

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    If he spearheads a bill to get more good CHL changes in Ohio I'll be impressed. Like to allow restaurant carry or something like that.

    That would mean that he is actually being pro-active, and realizing how dumb all the stipulations he and the others put into the original law, and is trying to change it.

    Good for him, glad he's alive. Now use your newfound wisdom along with your position to better society instead of just using something to help yourself.
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