May 16th, 2007 03:28 PM
Until he said that last night I was a pretty strong Romney supporter. As a result of that statement, he no longer has my vote.
Originally Posted by Timmy Jimmy
May 16th, 2007 03:48 PM
Originally Posted by QKShooter
Now, me? I'll settle for being the sole determiner (just for me).
And, yes, I did read the rest.
May 16th, 2007 04:38 PM
I support Free Speech; however, I have a list of books here that I want to ban....
May 16th, 2007 04:41 PM
It's easy if you are two-faced!
"If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Place on Earth!" Ronald Reagan
May 16th, 2007 06:24 PM
Wow... hearing this makes me sad... What is our great nation coming to??
And thanks for posting this guys, I missed the debate.
“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” Benjamin Franklin
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May 16th, 2007 06:59 PM
Politicians are known for their ability to speak out of both sides of their mouths… but not usually simultaneously!
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May 16th, 2007 06:59 PM
The 2A allows primarily for a the citizenry to have a means to kick out a tyrannical government. That means that the citizens should be allowed to have access to the same type of weapons as the military.
Now we all know we will never, and I mean never have access to 20mm & 30mm vulcan gatling guns shooting depleted uranium tipped rounds... but having assault weapons is the bare minimum an armed citizenry would need to accomplish kicking out a tyrannical government.
As Bill O'Reilly would say... "What say you, AG Gonzales?"
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
May 16th, 2007 08:48 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: determined citizens don't need 30mm cannons, tanks, aircraft carriers, or nukes to kick out a tyrannical government. Iraq is a great illustration of how hard it is to exert control over a population that doesn't want to submit to your rule. And there, it's only a minority of the population ("insurgents") that's resisting, yet they're able to seriously hold back the most powerful military in the world. The Afghans did the same when the USSR tried to invade them. Such large weapons are only useful in conventional warfare against a regular military, or (in the case of nukes) if you intend to completely wipe out the population. Both require the consent of the military to use. They're not useful in attempting to govern over people that you want to keep alive. The only way to do that is with a large military/police force in boots, on the ground, with small arms. And a force like that is highly vulnerable to citizens who resist with their own small arms or other weapons (home-made bombs, etc.).
Originally Posted by Bark'n
May 16th, 2007 09:31 PM
He's the politician variant of the typical FUDD.
As long as his buddies and the gun club like it, and by that I mean, it has to have walnut stocks, deep blue and have winchester, remington or Ruger stamped on the side. Then it's acceptable.
Its the same bunch who believes all we need are hunting guns and old sixguns in the drawer for home defense.
I wasnt going to vote for him before, and Im not going to vote for him twice as much now.
Fred is my man all the way. He can beat Hillary.
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May 16th, 2007 09:33 PM
....I remember the near fawning of Gov. Romney during the 2007 SHOT Show. He showed up in the company of Wayne LaPierre. I wonder of LaPierre threw his slippers at his TV when the Gov. said that.
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May 16th, 2007 10:07 PM
It allows for much more than that. Being armed means so very much more than resisting a tyrannical governing group of my own citizens. On a day-to-day basis, one is far more likely to have to defend against a BG in a bad situation. It's original purpose? Not so limiting.
The 2A allows primarily for a the citizenry to have a means to kick out a tyrannical government.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
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May 16th, 2007 10:10 PM
You are either incredibly naive or a Mormon.
Originally Posted by njeske
That idiot is the dumbest thing ever to come out of Utah and a flip flopper of gigantic proportions ON EVERY ISSUE.
May 16th, 2007 11:29 PM
"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."
-James Earl Jones
May 16th, 2007 11:52 PM
The only two candidates I gave a damn about going into this thing were Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. I can comfortably say I still feel the same way. Having grown up in MA, while Romney was in office, let me just get this out there. There are Republicans, and there are New England Republicans. They're the purple, the blue that bled into the red. Take what you hear from any northeastern big name republican with a grain of salt. I wouldn't want Romney or Guilianni anywhere near my constitution.
May 17th, 2007 08:23 AM
Darn it, I thought someone started a thread about me. Oxymoron and all.
I'm glad to know that I don't have to worry about Romney in this next election. The blatant lie was refreshing in one sense, politicians always do this anyway yet we keep voting them into office. At least he was up with that.
My real question is this, with the election still like 18 months away why are they having debates now and why do we care what they are saying? Campaigns should not start until the January before the coming election, period. We are not paying the Senators, etc who want to be President to run for that office. They are getting paid to be a Senator.
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