Illegal to carry long rifle concealed in vehicle?

Illegal to carry long rifle concealed in vehicle?

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    Illegal to carry long rifle concealed in vehicle?

    Assume a person has a Concealed Handgun License. Would it be illegal for that person to carry a loaded tactical shotgun or rifle (AR15), secured in a case, in the trunk of the vehicle?

    An LEO buddy of mine states that here in Texas, a CHL'd person can carry multiple handguns on his person at one time (I do it all the time), but carrying a loaded Tactical Shotgun or Rifle in the vehicle is illegal.

    Make sense?
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.


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    Sorry I can't help you there we have License to Carry Firearms
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    depends on the states rules. some do not allow long guns to be loaded in a motor vehicle.
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    I may be wrong but - I though TX was one place you could have a loaded long arm on board.... of course with law changing to allow carry of loaded handgun on board then it may become less important.

    In PA tho anyways - despite my permit allowing handgun loaded in vehicle - long arms are verboten in loaded state. Game Commission for one could jump on me and administer nasty things!
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    Thanks for the replies.

    I know that in Deer season every other vehicle has a loaded .308 in the rear seat and a loaded 12 gauge when in Dove season.

    But these weapons are obviously not regarded as "tactical".
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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    In PA - any time, any long arm - as I have understood it, it's a nono for loaded! Probaby quite a few variations across the states.
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    in Texas you may have long guns loaded or not in your vehicle or anywhere else concealed or not, they do not fall under the category of prohibited carrying of weapons, that distinct honor falls only on handguns, ILLEGAL knives, and clubs
    long guns are restricted in the some of the same places that handguns are restricted (courthouses, jails, etc) but as for your vehicle, you may have an AR, shotgun or whatever and does NOT have to be concealed

    this is in my trunk everyday (minus the bayonet ) along with a vest with spare mags for it and my HK 45:
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    In Washington State it is illegal to have any loaded long gun in your vehicle.

    RCW 77.15.460
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    Different States, Different Rulz.

    I think that 'bout sums it up. I have a shotgun and a rifle behind the seat of my truck, locked in a rack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post
    In PA - any time, any long arm - as I have understood it, it's a nono for loaded! Probaby quite a few variations across the states.
    Really? I'd never heard that before. I've always assumed that so long as you have a LTCF, you could leave your long guns loaded in your vehicle. It is, after all, a license to carry FIREARMS, not a license to carry handguns.
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    It varies from state to state. In Colorado it is legal to carry a loaded long gun in a vehicle as long as the chamber is empty. A LEO who notices the long gun may inspect the chamber.

    I do believe I've heard that doing so in TX is illegal. However, if it's an AR or AK, and the weapon and ammo are in the trunk, carrying the rifle in a case and the ammo in loaded magazines also in the trunk would be legal even in CA as both are out of the direct control of the occupants. That would be a fairly quick and easy load.

    Quote Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
    Really? I'd never heard that before. I've always assumed that so long as you have a LTCF, you could leave your long guns loaded in your vehicle. It is, after all, a license to carry FIREARMS, not a license to carry handguns.
    Again this varies from state to state. In Colorado we have a Concealed Weapons Permit, but the law expressly states that even tho it is called such it is a license to carry a handgun concealed only. However, we also have law that states that carrying a knife of any length concealed is in and of itself not a crime as a knife is a tool. It is the manner in which it is used or intended to be used which determines that it is a weapon... just like a screwdriver. So carrying a knife concealed doesn't require a permit.
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    If you have a CCW permit it's OK to have a long gun in your vehicle, but only if it's magazine-loaded. No rounds in the chamber allowed.

    No CCW, no magazine or chamber-loaded long guns allowed.

    Varies a bit from state to state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by los View Post
    Assume a person has a Concealed Handgun License. Would it be illegal for that person to carry a loaded tactical shotgun or rifle (AR15), secured in a case, in the trunk of the vehicle?

    An LEO buddy of mine states that here in Texas, a CHL'd person can carry multiple handguns on his person at one time (I do it all the time), but carrying a loaded Tactical Shotgun or Rifle in the vehicle is illegal.

    Make sense?
    Depends on state, in NC a concealed permit is for hand guns only; not knives, long guns, or other stuff.

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    Even before the gun laws became more idiotic here in MA (1998), it was illegal to have a loaded long gun in a vehicle.

    It was explained to me that this was from the hunting laws, to "prevent" folks from hunting animals from their moving vehicles.

    It won't surprise me if many states don't have similar laws for the same basic reason.
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    Correct. The key issue with my inquiry is the "loaded" part.

    That is, one in the chamber, loaded magazine inserted.

    Even though the AR-15 will be secured in a Pelican Case in the Trunk.
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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