Found an AntiGun Establishment....
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May 21st, 2007 01:35 PM
Found an AntiGun Establishment....
On Saturday, the wife and I stopped at the Petro Travel Center in Oak Grove, MO. It was one of our favorites to stop at, but not anymore.
On the doors was clearly posted NO GUNS. The Classic circle slash over the hand gun. We were about to purchase 145 Gallons of Diesel and then get supper, do laundry and take showers. Instead, upon seeing the sign, we drove across Interstate 70 to the TA truckstop, definately NOT our favorite, but they do not have the offending sign in the window.
Over dinner at the TA, I called 411 and was connected in minutes to the Petro, at which point I asked for the manager. I was told he was not in today and if I wanted to leave a voice mail. Sure I said and I did.
This afternoon I got a call back where the manager explained it was the owners decision to post the buildings. I asked what the reason behind that decision and was told, "due to firearms not being allowed in commercial vehicles." I calmly explained that this was not true and he could verify this by going to the DOT website, and doing a keyword search on the FMCSR and that "firearm" is not in the regulations. I also pointed out that truckers are not the only patrons of the facility and the posting makes them liable if a badguy shoots us and we were unarmed because of the sign. Badguys are not going to pay the sign any attention, in fact it helps them secure unarmed victims. I also explained how I was going to take our money else where so long as the sign remains.
He said he was going to discuss my points with the owners. We shall see.
May 21st, 2007 01:39 PM
Bravo for doing more then just passing by!!!
You might not change their minds, but at least you brought it to their attention.
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May 21st, 2007 01:43 PM
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May 21st, 2007 01:55 PM
Nice....good job man.
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May 21st, 2007 01:56 PM
I think this action is always meritted, even if it changes nothing ... but if more folks did it then in some cases it is the potential loss of $$$'s that can speak loudest.
Good job Lew ........ every lil bit helps
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May 21st, 2007 01:56 PM
Thanks. After I hung the phone up, the wife says to me, "You know if truckers are not supposed to have guns as they state, then they don't need the sign then do they..."
MAN WHY CAN'T I THINK OF GOOD STUFF LIKE THAT!!!!!
Oh, well she gave it to me for next time....
May 21st, 2007 02:02 PM
Nice Job! I have definitely gone to that particular station and turned around and hit the place in Grain Valley instead. If you don't allow guns, I don't allow you to have my money.
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May 21st, 2007 02:30 PM
Well done, to explain why they lost your business. Even if it doesn't change the minds of the owners of that establishment, your action may very well affect others who hear about it. It helps us all out when someone takes the time to deliver our message in an effective manner, as you did. Good work!
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May 21st, 2007 02:41 PM
I tried to send them an e-mail but could not get their e-mail site to work.
If it is not in the US Constitution then the Federal Government should not be doing it.
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May 21st, 2007 02:55 PM
Well done! Hopefully the potential loss of revenue will cause them to evaluate their stance on firearms.
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May 21st, 2007 03:13 PM
Nice job Lew. I think it is always worth the effort to explain why you will no longer frequent an establishment with no guns signs. I will bet he didn't get a call thanking him for putting up the sign. I'll bet it would only take a few truckers to call before he understands how much money he is loosing.
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May 21st, 2007 03:41 PM
If you want to get someone's attention, hit 'em in the pocketbook. Good job Lew...
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May 21st, 2007 03:53 PM
May 21st, 2007 06:26 PM
How many anti-gun truckers are there in this country? 3? Whoever owns that store is an idiot. That makes about as much sense as posting an anti-gun sign at a feed-n-seed, a tractor dealership, or some other business that typically serves conservative customers.
Didn't someone post a story here recently about how he and his wife were going to sleep in their truck at a truck stop, and some guy in a car drove up and was about to just break into their truck when he saw the trucker's 1911 and fled? And the trucker looked in the truck stop and found MS-13 gang graffiti posted?
Seems to me you'd be pretty dumb NOT to carry if you're a trucker these days.
May 21st, 2007 06:36 PM
If your an unarmed trucker, your either lucky, or not a trucker very long!
Good work Lew.
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