Shooter had Aryan Card/Class III license!

Shooter had Aryan Card/Class III license!

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    Shooter had Aryan Card/Class III license!

    This isnt going to help our cause any...

    The Spokesman Review reports this morning that the Moscow shooter was a card carrying member of the Aryan Nation and that he posessed a Class III firearms license for automatic weapons.

    I can see the headline now..."Insane Nazi was Gun Dealer". Not what we need right now, or ever.


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    I don't know that he was a gun dealer. And, contrary to popular belief, if you're legally able to own a gun it isn't difficult to go through the process to own full auto. The cost is the prohibition in all reality.
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    The media will spin up all the negatives for sure ...... but his ''affiliations'' may well do most to turn up heat on his ''club''.
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    I think 'Chucky, Barbara, Diane, and Ted' are working on the article as we type...

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    I don't know for sure, but I'm going to guess "Class III license" actually turns into "legal tax stamp" ... title II firearms are a very misunderstood beast....not that it will help our cause any, but I'm just guessing that he was "legal" to own guns and there for bought a pre-may transferable MG

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    Nazi's were taught a lesson during WWII. They may need to be taught again.

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    What is the difference between being Aryan or being muslim? Both groups are not tolerant of jews and one wants christianity wiped off the map

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    the Moscow shooter was a card carrying member of the Aryan Nation
    Umm sorry to pop anyones bubble but the AN dont issue cards . and anyone who is issueing cards supposedly by them has bigger problems than the press .
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    I emailed the Socialist, errr, Spokesman Review and pointed them in the direction of a few places that explain FFL Class 2 and tax stamps...

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    Andy you said
    Nazi's were taught a lesson during WWII. They may need to be taught again.
    The AN is not Nazi , if possible they are worse . Unfortunatly they are also survival in many of our penal institutions for a white boy . I am not wanting to go racial on this thread but the ab , and survival if incarcerated are in fact racial . No matter your color , you align to it and the informal orginisations or you die . It really is that tribal and simple today . I have some folks that i count as friends who are AB members , some of them i sent up and they had to " join " to survive . Its an extortion ring that once you pay you made a deal with the devil . All the other " prison gangs " are as bad tho , just the ab is really successfull at exporting the membership , the mexican mafia in its names would be second place ( tho they get more press with the ms13 stuff ect ) .
    Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life .
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    Umm sorry to pop anyones bubble but the AN dont issue cards
    Yeah, I thought that too, had they said they found some of the ink that is synonymous with the AN, that would be different.

    No AN's are not Nazi's per se, but they do have a lot of the same imagery and regalia, the AB was started in California. RR gave a pretty good overview on it, and how they work in prisons.
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    Good for you MD.Willington: These people are so ignorant about firearms and every thing connected with them that they regularly get everything wrong. If I see clip for magazine and see automatic for semi-automatic one more time I am going to throw up. The Aryan Nation usually were jail birds and served to protect one another in prison ergo, not elegible for a carry permit or a class III tax transfer on automatic weapons. What they wrote makes little sense.
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    The Aryan Nation usually were jail birds and served to protect one another in prison
    Lets be carefull throwing out the " jailbird " label . We are reaching the point here in the us that about 1/4 of our population has served ( or been sentenced to some type time for some type offense ).
    Many for bad checks , driving offenses , smoking pot , ect .. not violent offenders . They are the " grist " for the " mill " of the AB or MM . They are simply folks who got caught at things many of us have done without getting caught . They go to prison , and are instant food for the gangs , and since hard core gang members get out too , and the " food " love thier familys and lifestyles , they sometimes wind up in positions of at least passively supporting the gangs activitys . I dont agree or support any gang activity , but I do realise there are too many " BS " felonys on the books today that are victomless which serve to feed the gangs . In colorado for example , taking so much as a pencil out of a car is a felony , when the same pencil stolen off a desk does not rise to a petty offense . Now i for one would not want to hit any prison anywhere and admit i was there for a # 2 pencil theft lol .
    Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life .
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    Quotes from the Spokesman Review...

    "was a card-carrying Aryan Nations member licensed by the federal government to posess fully automatic weapons..."

    "How he got one, I have no idea," Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch said Tuesday of Hamilton's license from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Rausch confirmed that Hamilton also had a concealed weapons permit in Latah County, despite a domestic violence conviction that should have barred him from owning a gun."

    "We dont think he's been very active, but he's been a due's paying member since 2000," (in reference to his Aryan Nations ties)

    "Authorities found an Aryan Nations membership card and an Aryan Nations flag that belonged to Hamilton in his house..."

    Not saying they have all their facts straight, but this paper is close to the town (80 miles) and has reporters on the scene so this info isnt second hand.

    Im was not trying to swing this thread in the race direction, just commenting that this guys ties are going to be twisted...and it wont be in our direction.

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    Holy i know you weren't trying to twist anything , and your right that the MSM will attempt to portray us as a bunch of bubba bigots . after all in thier view all us gun owners are white , fat , with missing teeth who hate anyone who looks different . Its a political agenda to dis enfranchise any gun owner by minimizing us You will wait a long time to see female , or other than white gun owners shown in national media . The stereotype fits a pc agenda , the facts of gun ownership does not .
    Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life .
    We only begin to understand folks after we stop and think .

    Criminals are looking for victims, not opponents.

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