This is a discussion on I'd rather die than shoot anyone! within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by flagflyfish I was suprised how many people feel that way in northern Az.! As for me, I will defend myself, let natural ...
Some people are only born to serve as cannon fodder.I'd rather die than shoot anyone!
Nothing new there...
21 years and 21 days, United States Marine Corps.
The line of hard men willing to rain violence on our enemies so you can sleep warmly and safely in your bed at night continues. That's what we do. Semper fi.
NRA Life Member since 1972
Just for a bit of background Iím 6-4 284#. Played football in high school and collage, and semi-pro rugby after that. Iím a card carrying Republican some place to the right of Rush Limbaugh. Iím definitely not a coward and ZI doubt I look like a victim. BUT. Iím against the death penalty. Not because BG donít necessarily deserve to die, but because somebody has to pull the switch and I donít like that thought for or about any person having to do that. Iíll run like hell from any physical confrontation. Hide like a coward if necessary. BUT, again, if an innocent person or loved one faces certain death or serious harm or Iím cornered with no place to go, then Iíll have no qualms about emptying my 45 into the person or persons needing an attitude adjustment. There are persons Iíd rather die for. My wife, my kids, others in my family. But Iíd rather not die for the BG's amusement thank you.
I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.
Someone who has gone through combat and come away from the experience with shell shock or some other mental condition has my sympathy, and to an extent, my disdain. I am a combat vet. I was fired on and I fired back. I lived, they did not and I saw what a 25mm round will do to the human body. I fired those rounds. It was disturbing but I do not sit and cower at the sound of thunder or a car backfire. I do not have nightmares. People who let that kind of experience ruin the rest of their lives were never right for that profession in the first place and the blame falls partly on the military for not weeding them out and partly on them for going through with joining.
That might be harsh but it is the way I feel, I hope I have not offended anyone with my views.
But, to just take it is in my estimation most surely unjustifiable especially if one has been in combat and already knows what to do.
Sorry if you don't like that but I say what I think and feel and that is how I feel. If that bothers you, please, just skip my posts. I'm not trying to offend anyone, this just happens to be a subject that I feel VERY, VERY strongly about, especially on Memorial Day. I hat to think of all my fellow vets who have laid down their lives so we could live free just to have some people surrender their property or lives with out a fight to the scum that walk among us. That disgusts me.
If there are combat vets who feel the way you describe then I suggest they go live by themselves on a mountain in Montana or Idaho where they can never have the chance to be put in a situation where they have to decide to defend themselves of be slaughtered by a punk with a switchblade.
Im with ya on that one Sigp239.
It OK, it does not make any difference to me how you feel about it.
As to, "If there are combat vets who feel the way you describe then I suggest they go live by themselves on a mountain in Montana or Idaho where they can never have the chance to be put in a situation where they have to decide to defend themselves of be slaughtered by a punk with a switchblade."
I guess they will live where they desire to live without anyone's permission, including yours.
Somehow they seem to get by without having to defend themselves from punks. Maybe they would be good at that even unarmed against a switchblade, but maybe not. In either case they live out their days as they please, without worrying what folks think about their attitude towards carrying a weapon.
The discussion is not whether one would defend himself, but whether or not he would take a life. Don't get confused on that issue.
How many times have you had to defend yourself against a punk with a switchblade. Not that you couldn't but I bet you have never had to do that. Maybe I am incorrect, but I admit I have never had to defend myself against any kind of attack in the US. So a punk with a switchblade does not seem to be a threat numbers wise, unless of course one hangs around those types of neighborhoods and areas.
Personally, I have no need or desire to frequent those places.
Am I just lucky?
Anyway each can do as he pleases in that regard.
I have never had to defend myself from a punk with a switchblade. But, I have had to defend my Mother in Law from a punk with a fillet knife. here is the story:
And, I don't presume to think that anyone needs my permission to live anywhere.
The stop and rob gas stations/convenience stores are maybe the most dangerous places around, especially if one works there. That is a place where I would want several guns stashed around. Unfortunately some of them prohibit that.
Anyway, nothing else to say from my point of view, and nothing personal.
Have a good day.
Spoken like a like someone beleives that it cant happen to them.So a punk with a switchblade does not seem to be a threat numbers wise, unless of course one hangs around those types of neighborhoods and areas.
Personally, I have no need or desire to frequent those places.
Stay out of bad places with bad people and nothing will ever happen.
or so the though process goes...
Unfortunately its not that easy. Bad things happen to good people in nice places. The number of people with switchblades is irrelevant if you've got one standing in front of you wanting your stuff.So far.Am I just lucky?
Letting yout guard down in places where you think trouble shouldnt happen can get you in trouble eventually.
I think you need to rethink your doctrine a bit.
You too Jerry.
Happy Memorial Day to you and yours.
I wonder if they would hold to that when lying on the ground, with their life force pouring out. Would their last thought be, "OMG, I'm dying because some low life decided to take my life for no reason. I'm happy it is me leaving my family alone and not him."
OR would they be thinking, "I wish I had fought for MY life, because my life had just as much, if not more, value as the scum that took it. I should have fought back for my family's sake if not mine."
A woman must not depend on protection by men. A woman must learn to protect herself.
Susan B. Anthony
A armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one has to back it up with his life.