This is a discussion on Crimson Trace versus LaserMax within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I prefer CT grips for two reasons. One I am not a fan of the blinking, and two I like that there is no extra ...
I prefer CT grips for two reasons.
One I am not a fan of the blinking, and two I like that there is no extra manipulation of the weapon to get them to turn on. Simply grip it, and its on.
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I have CT on both my Glock's ie.G26/G39 and love them.Works fine in all my holsters.
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Count me in for CT's on my S+W .40 tactical. Love 'em. No issues, no fumbling. Just grip it and it's on, relax my ring finger, and it's off.
Once you get it dialed in, it's dead on every time.
Now, while I was having my CT's put on ( at a show, free install ), they were also installing an LM for another guy, and couldn't seem to make it work reliably. It would work fine for a few times, then not, then it would again. The guy was fairly annoyed. It could've been the gun, a bad LM unit, or the guy installing, but I was very under-whelmed. Right there, I decided I wouldn't consider a LM for ANY gun I owned. I didn't like substituting parts that came from the factory.
Two things to consider about any laser :
1- That laser works both ways in a smoky/foggy enviroment, the main reason I don't like constant on or rail mounted lasers ( that you have to activate separately ).
2- Don't count on the laser. Practice with the iron sites. The day you count on it, is the day it will fail.
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I have the CT grips on my Ultra Carry and honestly, the jury is still out to me as to whether they are a good thing or bad thing. I can certainly see the advantage to them but I can also see where they can create bad shooting habits in regards to sight aquisition and placement. When at the range, I usually try to shoot 2 or 3 mags with the laser and after the 3rd mag I catch myself looking over the sights to see the laser. I could see where it *might* cause bad habits if you shoot them a lot. That's why I practice with my sights more than the laser. I know unless something *REALLY* bad goes down that my sights will always work.
Kimber Ultra Carry - CT Lasergrips
Glock 19, 21SF, 29
Built M4 Carbine - My Evil Black Rifle
I have a crimson on my sig-sauer p-239 and on my kimber ultra carry
and I like em.
I've had a CT on my Commander for several years now and no problems encountered.
I have noted that in bright daylight the tiny dot cannot be seen beyond about 25 feet.
I've also noted that in daylight, I don't even look for the dot but just use the trusty iron sights.
What I've done for a long time now, is when I get home and park the vehicle in the garage, I try a draw and point shoot at something (not really shoot but draw and say "bang") and then look at where the dot is.
Two conclusions here - Point shooting at close range really has something to say for it. And, the CT dot lets you know where you would have hit right away.
I've had CT laser grips on my SIG P229 for some time and more recently my P220. No complaints at all. I chose the CT product over the LaserMax mostly because I was about to, or already had, replaced the factory grips with rubberized grips anyway. Activating the laser upon presentation seemed more natural as well. No problem with holster or body interference with the switch. Bright even in daylight, in my experience. I devote some range time to practice with the normal sights, but my older eyes, bifocals, lack of dominant eye, etc. make that difficult. Putting the dot on the target and shooting is a great concept, despite disadvantages of the laser (giving away position, reliance on battery powered gizmo, etc.)
I might mention one potential problem with the CT's - and it's not a failing so much as something to do with user proportions.
I have CT's on all three of my SIG's (and love 'em!) ......... now with the 226 and 228 in particular, being double stackers, the grip circumference is quite large. Suits me fine and in fact the CT grip feel is even better than factory grips.
However - one or two folks who have tried these guns, and have smaller hands with shorter fingers, do find the strong hand middle finger pad does not quite make the pressure switch every time. Thus no 100% reliable automatic turn-on every time.
The 220 being single stack is slightly less of a problem with short fingers but - point is - folks with smaller hands need to bear this in mind, so as not to be disappointed.
Chris - P95
NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member.
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is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."
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