This is a discussion on Ret Was Forced to Show His Gun? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I'm assuming from some of these threads that a holster tends to support public confidence if the weapon is accidently displayed. I'm concerned, because I ...
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I'm assuming from some of these threads that a holster tends to support public confidence if the weapon is accidently displayed. I'm concerned, because I have been using an adhesively bonded clip on my SP101 for IWB carry. (with suspenders and a somewhat loose belt)....are there any concrete examples of when the lack of a holster caused problems, or are we just preparing for problems, so as to avoid them?
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Severa points regarding carrying in your Dr.s office:
1. Even if your doc is not a ccw person, they may still have a positive view of guns. My dental specialist hunts deer each year and my cardiologist went on vacation to hunt bear!
2. Posting an office as non carry does not necessarily mean the Dr. is anti gun. There are logical reasons in many cases where guns and the activity in a clinic don't mesh. Such as previous posters have mentioned changing clothes, unable to take the gun into a room for magnetic scanning, etc. Situations in which it makes it difficult to ensure your gun is under your control at all times.
3. Watch the legal aspects. In Oklahoma I can legally take my gun into a private business not supported by alcolol (a Dr.s clinic) but the law clearly states no firearm may be brought into a hospital. IF your doctor had a clinic in an annex to the hospital, or leased the building from the hospital it could be a fine legal hair. Just the kind that attorneys and district attorneys so annoying the rest of us humans with.
In Oklahoma, even we liberals like guns!
Originally Posted by Gun Loving Liveral
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All very good points Gun... duely noted here. Thanks for input.
-Bark'n
Semper Fi
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
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I went for an x-ray last year and the clinic where I had it done had a bank of lockers in the area where you would disrobe and put on a hospital gown. They issue you a key.
Retsup, it seems as though, since nothing was said in the negative about you being armed, that there is no reason for you to demur from bringing your gun the next time you go to this doctor. (If he says something like, "Oh, I thought you'd know to leave that home this time," you can tell him that by all indications, he was fine with it the first time, so why would you be expected to think that?)
Sounds like an experience hovering between neutral and positive.
Probably won't carry for my next visit...it's for one of 'them thar colon inspection probes'...and there are only two types of people needing that done...
Normal individuals wanting to have a fair warning of possible future colon problems and politicians wanting to have their heads removed from their 'arses'...
Actually, I'll be 'under' and needing a ride home after...so...no weapon. I do think I may tread on the CCW issue with the Doc before everything is a 'go' though...we'll see!
Stay safe...stay armed!
ret
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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I think more and more doctors are starting to come around. On my trip back to Maryland last month I ran into my old doctor at the range!
What range in Md did you go to?
I have a close DR friend that shoots a lot.
He's a Podiatrist.
Primary Carry Gun: Sig Sauer 229~R (.40cal w/ Golden Saber JHP's)
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Cute.Probably won't carry for my next visit...it's for one of 'them thar colon inspection probes'...and there are only two types of people needing that done...
Normal individuals wanting to have a fair warning of possible future colon problems and politicians wanting to have their heads removed from their 'arses'...
I'm one of them normal type folk, who lost his mom to colon cancer that spread to her liver, back in 2001 when I was 29. In 2002, I went to my doctor and told him I wanted to check things out, since I now had close family who had developed cancer. We did the colonoscopy and they removed three polyps! I was only 31! They were benign, but as we know, polyps are what turns into cancer, if they are destined to. Colon cancer begins as polyps, that is.
So when I went for the test, I handed my bag (with CCW) to my brother the first time, and my dad the second time. Both have (had) FL CCW licenses. When I was done, I took them back. The reason bro and dad were there for my two procedures (two years apart) was that they make you have someone around to take you home. Of course, I recover very well from the anesthesia, so I was right with it afterward -- even drove us home, and went to work those nights.
Very important to get that test done. Life-saving.
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My doc knows I carry, and she has no problem with it. In the summer I just remove the fanny pack along with my shirt, and it sits on the chair. Wintertime, I stick it in my coat pocket and carry it into the exam room.
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I know of the importance, my dad died from colon cancer at the age of 75!
Only 31? That's young for 'body' problems...I'm 60, and everything seems to be either too tight or it leaks...
Three years ago I had 5 polyps cut out...one was the type the causes cancer...the doc said that if I had waited a few more years, things could have become more complicated...so I appreciate the importance of having things checked out regularly...
Take care...
ret
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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NRA Life Member
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I'm a Physician Assistant, and a few years ago, I must have worked in the most heavily armed offices in the world! One doc, and a few others carried. That was before I got my CCW, otherwise, I would have added to it. Now days, if I was the one examining you, and you told me you had a gun on your hip, I probably would say, "Me too!"
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You dont need a CHL to carry in your workplace, so long as the owner and/or manager (primary doctor in your case) gives you permission to do so.
Primary Carry Gun: Sig Sauer 229~R (.40cal w/ Golden Saber JHP's)
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Gilberts in Rockville. I ran into Dr. Baaker, he is a sleep specialist.
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Sounds like a good Doctor to me. I think you should be happy with this Doctors visit.
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My dentist packs a .357, and has me keeping look out for a Series 70 Gov't model. He actually suggested a couple of good shops that I had no idea existed.
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Sounds like a good situation. Glad to hear he didn't freak and give you the old line about how guns kill people and such and such and such.
I had a vasectomy done about 4-5 months ago. When the wife and myself went in for the consult at the doc's office, I was carrying my XD IWB per usual without even thinking that he would want to check me out. I was thinking it was just going to be a routine question and answer session. So were sitting there talking about the whole deal and he says that he wants to check things out real quick so he knows what he'll need as far as time and expectations during the procedure. Now I'm sitting there like "Uh-oh.... let's see how this works out.." So I procede to slip my pants down and remove the gun. The doc sees it and proceeded to ask me about CCW and pistols and everything while he's checking out my "gun".
Just another case where it worked out fine in the end. They are out there, sometimes it's just tough trying to find them.
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<----My LT was unhappy that I did not have my PASS-Tag at that fire. But I found the body so he said he would overlook it. :)
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