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    Fitness

    This is a topic I saw bouncing around on another forum. And it comes up from time to time amongst my friends and other shooters:

    How important is your fitness level to you in general, and in terms of defense of life and limb?

    Also, gimme some of your training techniques and favorite fitness equipment. Include brand names if you like, and martial artists include your style and why it works for you. I always enjoy hearing about someone who's thinking and training outside the box.

    If interested, I'll post some of my routines.


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    Your fitness level is extremely important to self-defense. When things get close and personal, it can make the difference between life and death.

    I mostly work out with Kettlebells...

    http://www.russiankettlebells.com/?kbid=1934

    I've had a lot better results with them, than I did with standard weights.

    I also mix in working out with a heavy bag.
    Blessed be the Lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Psalm 144:1

    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    JT,
    thanks, bro....that looks very interesting. I'm gonna investigate those some more.

    Dan

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    Shucks - you young guys!!

    Was a time when I was very fit, agile and not to be argued with! Not quite so the case now I fear to say. 60 is not an age where 30 year old blood still circulates! I am tho 6'.00" and 200 # so actually quite fit compared to some - way more muscle than fat but - one thing I realize is, that my potential for physical altercation is way down! Stamina is poor.

    I can still run well - and escape will always be a priority before Roscoe gets pulled. I should work out more but days in front of puter tend to diminish that (plus laziness!). I try and compensate tho by keeping SA (sit' awareness) well up to scratch.

    Oh to be 25 again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdsumner
    How important is your fitness level to you in general, and in terms of defense of life and limb?
    Very. For me, being in shape has a positive impact on every other facet of my life.

    For self-defense, I think it is pretty obvious. Sayings like "The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war" weren't thought up by the boardroom buzzword specialists. When you consider the possibility that any violent encounter might end up being a hand-to-hand contest (essentially an athletic event), the advantage will go to the best-conditioned combatant, all other things being equal.

    Be reasonable, though. You can overdo training to the point of injury, and the average bad guy won't re-schedule his attack for when you're healed. If you are unable to function, it doesn't matter whether it's because you're in terrible shape, or because you hurt yourself trying to work though pain.

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    Come on - you other ol' pharts - I need some help and support here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    Come on - you other ol' pharts - I need some help and support here!
    I lift weights every day. When I get out of bed, when I get out of my chair.... Don't take me for granted, though. Wisdom and slyness are good tools for old pharts.
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    Wisdom and slyness are good tools for old pharts.
    And following on from that Bumper - let me add what I hope may give me a small edge, even if I am gettin' ancient!!!

    "Don't fight an old man - he's got nothing to lose, and has learned all the dirty tricks you still don't know!" (Preacherman gave me that one!).
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    Remember that youth and enthusiasm will never win over old age and treachery.

    One advantage to staying in good physical shape is that when the adrenaline dump hits you in a self-defense scenario your system will be able to cope with it better than if you are a sedentary couch potato. You will shake and quiver less and that will improve your aim.
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    I'm not much of a gym person, so I have my stuff at home. For the upper body, my adjustable dumbbells are set at 20 lbs right now. If you that's wimpy, remember I weigh around 105. I do curls, flys and rows, and a couple others (can't remember the names). Pushups are also good.

    For core training, I do a lot of ab work, some with one of those giant inflatable balls. Try reverse pikes on that. *zow!*

    I also have my heavy bag and speed bag.



    For having an almost complete spinal fusion, I'm pretty flexible. I can do a split and reach down and touch my toes.

    I also go backpacking. Hiking up and down Tennessee hills can knock those legs muscles into shape. For the abdomen/lower body, I also do weighted lunges and squats.

    The routines are split - lower body one day, upper body the next, warming up with some cardio. I have a stationary bike for that. And then I eat something yummy and full of protein when I'm all done.

    Our July issue of S.W.A.T. has a good article on increasing your grip and finger strength.
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    You will shake and quiver less and that will improve your aim.
    Bob - one thing I do know - fitness or no - if my adrenaline cuts in I am 100% certain that the wobbly knees are not far away. Heck - I have never managed to tame those!

    Maybe tho even if that is the case - my upper body will respond as needed ... sure hope so!!! Prefer of course - to never have to put to the test! There is geriatric optimism for you - if ever I heard it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdsumner
    If interested, I'll post some of my routines.


    Dan
    So what are you currently doing?
    Blessed be the Lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Psalm 144:1

    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    I believe in the old age and treachery. Your hand and arm strength is very important though. I have taught several that do not have working legs and a couple with an artificial arm. I think be in the best shape you can be. You kids will be old one of these days, Lord willin'
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    "old phartz"-you guys just keep some cardio training. Walking at a brisk pace 3-5 times a week for 20mins is a good start. Take the stairs, park away from the main enterance, so on and ad naseum. Just stay healthy. For no other reason than for your families and friends (me). Bad guys who are looking to ruff ya up, probably wont stay long if you can stay toe to toe for more than a few seconds. Takes up too much of their time and increases their chances of being hurt/caught.

    Miz Betty, sound like you have it covered. An' lissen, the 20lbs dumbells are no wimpy matter. I have some routines where 20lbs kick my "Wrangler sign hangers". I dont think any thug in his right mind would wanna roll around on the concrete with you, ma'am. Hell, it sounds like Tourist gives you many props, and he's been there an done that from what I read.

    Me? My week days start at 05:15, 35mins cardio on an elliptical machine. Then circuit training with weights and a coupla machines. I love the circuits I have set up. Following a monster bout with back pain, I learned "smarter, not harder". Mon, Wed, Fri, I do an upper body after cardio. I superset (no rest between) a chest press and a trap exercise (shrugs, or high pulls) for 3 sets 12-15 reps. Then, 2 mins rest. Superset of Lats and overhead press 3x12-15. 2 mins rest. Then, superset tri's and bis. I'm done in about 20-25 mins, so the whole thing is maybe 1 hr. Tues and thurs, legs. Legs I do more for stamina. They suck after already doing cardio. I'll do deep jumps for 30sec, no rest, ham curls for 30sec, no rest, wall squats for 30 seconds, no rest, and ham stretches. Then 2 mins rest and repeat 2 more times. End each day with some ab work (Miz Betty, I use one o' them big rubber balls for crunches-they suck). I change each of the exercises for each body part each time I train. Then, its off to work where I climb ladders, hook poles, and dig splice pits.

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    Miz Betty, sound like you have it covered. An' lissen, the 20lbs dumbells are no wimpy matter. I have some routines where 20lbs kick my "Wrangler sign hangers".
    Thanks. I only do the curls and rows with the 20 lbs (3 sets of 10), and 10 lbs for the flys (lying back on the ball), unless I want a dumbbell between my teeth. :biggrin_t

    These days I only work out around twice a week and hike/walk over the weekend. I'm trying to keep a physique I can maintain over the long run, without looking like a [deep_voice]man.[/deep_voice]
    "Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa

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