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    Need to vent....again....

    Last night I was having a little fun at the range. Well, kinda sorta, my recoil anticipation problem came back. Its an issue I just can't shake but working hard on it. Anyways, my friend "Kevin" called to ask if I could meet up with him later on that night to help "Pete" because he wanted to buy his very first pistol and since I read a lot that I could be of some help. I said sure.

    Later on that night, we met up. Me, "Kevin", "Pete" all were talking and Pete's co-worker showed up. The co-worker didn't say hello, didn't shake hands, didn't even acknowledge. He just pulled up a seat and sat down with a cocky, "I am Mr Bad Ass" look.

    Okay, as we a pick a topic on a gun, a feature, or a caliber, the co-worker butts in as if we begged for his opinion. My friend, kevin, was talking something about a caliber when the co-worker butts in, AGAIN, and asks, "Kevin, do you have a CHL?" My friend looks at him as if he was stupid and said, "No, you don't need one in order to have a knowledge about guns". The co-worker gets cocky and says, "well I have one".

    Now we get to the good part. As me and Pete are getting to Glocks, his main problem was that it doesn't come with a safety. I told him now to worry about that because the safety is "between the ears". The co-worker, butts in AGAIN, and says, "well, I can draw and disengage the safety pretty fast." I say, "OH really?? Well, what pistol do you have?" He mumbles out CZ. I said, "WHAT?" He repeats it again. So, being annoyed already by his character, I wanted to see if he wanted a little gun knowledge battle royale! I challenged him and asked, "what is it?" He says, "Oh its an old gun, my dad gave it to me". I say, "I didn't ask how old was it, I asked what is it?" He didn't say much, so I preceded. "Is it a 75B, an 85, an 83, a 97?" "Is it Combat, Competition, Compact, or Tactical?" And I swear to you, if he said RAMI 2075, he would've had a cigarette burn because the RAMI is NOT old. He end up saying nothing but "I dunno". I said, "so your OWN dad gave you his gun so that his son could protect himself and yet you don't know what it is?" He said "Well, I am not going to keep it much, I am just waiting for my new one to come in." I just had to ask what it was. "He says, Colt..." and before he could answer, I said "Don't tell me, 1911 in some flashy finish like nickel platted". He looked puzzled and before he could ask, I said "you just look like the type."

    Well, a couple minutes passed and me and my friends continued on our conversation while just ignoring him. Just like a fly, he ended up leaving. Sorry, I felt a sense of accomplishment.


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    roflmao ... bt dt Dont mind the idiots , help whom you can .
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    There's not a thing in the world wrong with not knowing about something, but to act like a pro, and have an attitude, looks like turn-about was justified. Maybe next time he will listen a little more, and maybe even ask a question or two first.
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    I did something very similar at my local gunshop not long ago. I was looking at some gun or other and this loudmouth kept insisting I should get a Springfield like he had. I finally had enough and asked what kind - he said "1911!" I said "yeh, but which model: GI, Mil-Spec, Loaded Fullsize, Champion....?" He quickly shut his trap and walked off. Sometimes ya' just gotta do what ya' gotta do.

    Last time I went in to make a lay away payment the guy behind the counter greeted me by name. Come to think of it, he cuts me some pretty good deals on my guns now .... maybe there's a connection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean3 View Post
    I did something very similar at my local gunshop not long ago. I was looking at some gun or other and this loudmouth kept insisting I should get a Springfield like he had. I finally had enough and asked what kind - he said "1911!" I said "yeh, but which model: GI, Mil-Spec, Loaded Fullsize, Champion....?" He quickly shut his trap and walked off. Sometimes ya' just gotta do what ya' gotta do.

    Last time I went in to make a lay away payment the guy behind the counter greeted me by name. Come to think of it, he cuts me some pretty good deals on my guns now .... maybe there's a connection?
    Jack
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    When I was just beginning to look into handguns I ran into these two guys about ~23-26 that were cleaning their pistols. I told them I was in the market and asked them about their guns. They were Highpoints. These two guys were cocky and had an heir of righteousness about them because of their "really solid" pistols. They told me they had tried dozens of others but Highpoints were the best. They even said "most people own highpoints for personal protection".


    haha needless to say I just walked away in utter disbelief at what I had just heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kavity View Post
    When I was just beginning to look into handguns I ran into these two guys about ~23-26 that were cleaning their pistols. I told them I was in the market and asked them about their guns. They were Highpoints. These two guys were cocky and had an heir of righteousness about them because of their "really solid" pistols. They told me they had tried dozens of others but Highpoints were the best. They even said "most people own highpoints for personal protection".


    haha needless to say I just walked away in utter disbelief at what I had just heard.
    Oh man! I live in a not so popular side of Houston and all you see are S&W Sigma's, Hi-Points, and GLOCKS.

    Its so bad that I told this guy that I had an HK USP, he looked at me like I was lost and asked if its some new brand? I laughed and explained to him that theres more than GLOCK. He still believes that the S&W Sigma was THE pistol to have. So I told him, "If you really want a nice Smith and Wesson, get an M&P."

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    LOL, yeah, btdt, know the type
    sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do
    had a young buck behind a gun counter kept telling me that Glocks had been recalled because they were exploding, the 9mm was best round of them all, and some other junk....I just gave him a "certain" look and walked away
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    Quote Originally Posted by skippythenurse View Post
    Oh man! I live in a not so popular side of Houston and all you see are S&W Sigma's, Hi-Points, and GLOCKS.

    Its so bad that I told this guy that I had an HK USP, he looked at me like I was lost and asked if its some new brand? I laughed and explained to him that theres more than GLOCK. He still believes that the S&W Sigma was THE pistol to have. So I told him, "If you really want a nice Smith and Wesson, get an M&P."
    Just to play devil's advocate a bit...you seem kind of quick to add your impressions as well, so i'm not sure why you admonished the other guy so badly in your first post. I know plenty of guys that are heavy into guns. One I shoot with every week is in his 50's and owns three or four safes full of various handguns and rifles. If I were to tell him I got an HK USP Tactical, he'd want to know what it was and wouldn't have a clue. There's a big difference between knowing a lot about guns, and not knowing every model of gun on the market. You seem to jump to a lot of conclusions about people pretty quickly yourself. You blasted the guy about his comment about being able to draw and disengage the safety quickly... most people that are remotely trained with their firearm can disengage the safety DURING the draw, which doesn't really add any time.

    Maybe i'm just getting the wrong impression from this, but you seem to have a bit of that know-it-all attitude yourself that you're blasting the other guy for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippythenurse View Post
    Oh man! I live in a not so popular side of Houston and all you see are S&W Sigma's, Hi-Points, and GLOCKS.

    Its so bad that I told this guy that I had an HK USP, he looked at me like I was lost and asked if its some new brand? I laughed and explained to him that theres more than GLOCK. He still believes that the S&W Sigma was THE pistol to have. So I told him, "If you really want a nice Smith and Wesson, get an M&P."
    I know alot of people have problems with their sigmas. I bought one because I was bored and had $275 bucks to blow on whatever I felt like. While the trigger leaves much to be desired, I have yet to have the gun malfunction. 2k+ rounds. It's hard to be accurate with it, but its a good weapon if you just want to go to the woods and shoot pop cans. They are cheap enough that you won't cry if dropped, scratched, dinged, or otherwise abused.
    (it doesn't like light reloads but that isn't the guns fault)

    Besides the 1911 with flat MSH it is the most comforable griped gun i've shot. I know it's not a popular opinion but its mine.

    The last time I was at the gunstore, there was a young LEO there and we got onto the topic of ammuntion. I apparently was mistaken in my beliefs and he was more than willing to inform me that there is nothing better than Corbon for JHP. And that it is the perfect round for both home defence and every-day-carry. All others fall short and must bow down before it. How silly of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowAngel View Post
    Maybe i'm just getting the wrong impression from this, but you seem to have a bit of that know-it-all attitude yourself that you're blasting the other guy for.
    No I don't think you're getting the wrong impression. I guess in retrospect, yeah I did come off quick. But on the other hand, I don't like it when people don't just sit at a table with no manners, interrupt a conversion just to throw it off topic, and not look me in the eye when they're talking to me. So I guess when when we started talking about guns, I was probably already heated by that.

    A side note, my friend "Kevin" is MUCH more knowledgeable than I am and I always love to listen. But he is the same, I guess, as your friend. If its a Colt or its pertaining to revolvers, he is THE man to go to. But when it is about semi-auto's or new technology he would actually call me up and I would have no problem talking to him about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippythenurse View Post
    No I don't think you're getting the wrong impression. I guess in retrospect, yeah I did come off quick. But on the other hand, I don't like it when people don't just sit at a table with no manners, interrupt a conversion just to throw it off topic, and not look me in the eye when they're talking to me. So I guess when when we started talking about guns, I was probably already heated by that.
    That's cool, I can understand that. If he's interjecting to be helpful, that's one thing. If you're being interrupted for no reason whatsoever, that gets old real quick. It sounds like the guy is one of those people that needs to be brought down a notch now and then. Not knowing the gun you're risking your life on is...well, stupid. Maybe your chiding will get him to educate himself a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippythenurse View Post
    He still believes that the S&W Sigma was THE pistol to have.
    Damn! you should posted earler! I could have sold him my Sigma Model Ninja Seal Paratrooper with stealth sights for $700.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skippythenurse View Post
    Oh man! I live in a not so popular side of Houston and all you see are S&W Sigma's, Hi-Points, and GLOCKS.
    Do all those glocks have The HoMeBoY NyTe SyTeS on them?
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