June 28th, 2007 06:57 PM
Has anyone else caught themselves being in condition white?
On several occasions, I've caught myself having my head in the clouds, or looking dead straight while I'm driving, and I would actually catch myself being in condition white. Sometimes while walking down the street in public, I would be completely oblivious to my surroundings as thoughts run through my head. I've been trying to break these bad habits, and be more aware of what's going on around me. I still often times catch myself being in conditon white. Has anyone else experienced this, or am I alone?
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June 28th, 2007 06:59 PM
In my experience, it impossible to be on high alert all the time. There are times I will go into condition white, but not usually while driving or walking home from work at night.
The key is to determine when it is ok to be in white, and when you need to be in yellow.
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June 28th, 2007 07:14 PM
I agree, if you stay in danger mode too long, without a break you'll burn yourself out...
Originally Posted by buckeye07
While on the road, I zone out quite often, but I usually knock down over a thousand miles a month. I still keep aware of my surroundings, not really white or yellow, but somewhere in the middle.
When I first started carrying I was in yellow most of the time and it made me quite the "stiff" individual.
To be totally honest, I don't believe in the whole white/yellow/red deal, it's too set in stone by alot of people.
I suppose that I'm normally in a white and a half state, I'm aware, but not on edge..
White usually means un aware, yellow means that you suspect somehitng or that your alerted, red means it's about to or has hit the fan.
To me there's either: Aware of your surroundings or being totally oblivious.
I'd say that aware is a combination of all 3 of the colors, kind of like a pale orange
June 28th, 2007 07:20 PM
Yep, .............or maybe not. Having good situational awareness sometimes I wonder if I am just relaxed in condition yellow or spacing out.
I think at some point we all tend to space out. Our body and mind need some R&R .
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June 28th, 2007 07:37 PM
I think every day when I get into the office I go into condition white. Haha!
June 28th, 2007 07:39 PM
I find it very relaxing in cond yellow. I'm more comfortable being aware.
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June 28th, 2007 07:47 PM
Guilty. Generally much more so in the suburbs than anywhere around work (Downtown Detroit).
June 28th, 2007 07:48 PM
It can happen however hard we try I think - and I'll example that by ''task fixation'' - something I am ever more aware of as a possible ''white maker''.
Using a cell - light a smoke - many things can if we are not careful take us out of yellow, long enough perhaps to matter.
Perhaps this sits a shade better in the Concealed Carry issues forum.
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June 28th, 2007 08:02 PM
I don't consider myself bipolar generally, but when it comes to 'Def Con' (as I call it) I am capable of a duality that sometimes defies description, much like JD explained above.
I am a fairly calm person, I am also an 'over-thinker'.
I may appear to be like a duck gliding across a pond, on the surface. But just below that calm exterior I am processing, processing, processing. Like the duck is paddling crazily.
Thus, I am in condition white and condition orange simultaneously.
I appear calm and congenial, inside I am sizing you up as a threat.
My guess is most of us here are like that, capable of hiding the condition orange or yellow with a condition white veneer.
It's called camouflage.
June 28th, 2007 08:07 PM
I'm pretty much white anytime I am at work.
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June 28th, 2007 08:18 PM
it happens. I commute about 30min to work on back country roads, and it's very easy to just go on autopilot. Usually, the act of realizing I'm not paying close enough attention to what's around me pulls me back into full awareness, though.
When I'm around people, I very seldom am in condition white. I won't say never, but it's become a habit to scan the room whenever I'm not alone.
June 28th, 2007 08:27 PM
Ummm, bad guys are like poachers. They'll happily shoot you outside of season. [/lame attempt at being a wise guy]
Originally Posted by Pete
June 28th, 2007 09:09 PM
I believe that outside of my own secured space, yellow is where to be until a higher level of awareness is called for. If the time comes that I cannot (reasonably) secure my space, then it is time to get a different space.
Decades ago when I went to work for the Bell System, they were one of the first to teach three rules for safety behind the wheel and everywhere else. They were:
1. Keep your eyes moving.
2. Get the big picture.
3. Leave yourself an out.
This is my goal but one that is not fully realized yet.
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June 29th, 2007 12:20 AM
I find myself in the white quite often then realize maybe I should have been more aware. I'm always aware when in a parking lot or out at night or standing in a bank. I've caught myself being "in the white" when waiting in a fast food place which kinda startles me when I realize it.. I think it's normal to be relaxed at times.
June 29th, 2007 12:34 AM
I confess, it happens to me more often than I like.
When I suddenly wake up from "white" and realize I went there unintentionally I tend to get a little upset with myself.
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