My son is an EMT and yesterday was his first shooting victim

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    My son is an EMT and yesterday was his first shooting victim

    My son volunteers as an EMT for the eastern part of Hillsborough County Florida and yesterday was his first response to a shooting victim. Seems the perp shot the victim with a concealed weapon while the victim had playing cards in one hand and a beer in the other. Three 9 mm's at close range ended the discussion and a life. The scary part of the ordeal was the shooting was 100 yards form the firestation and they heard the shots My son says it is against county policy for them to carry on the job.....

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    Do us all a favor and visit further with your son , i among others would be interested in the " lessons learned " off of this call he answered .
    Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher View Post
    My son says it is against county policy for them to carry on the job.....
    Generally, tis' so. OTOH, when I was working, I carried 3 knives, a Minimag light, and a 3D cell Maglight. If I couldn't see someone's hands, I made sure mine were filled... with something a little firmer than the milk of human kindness. If he's interested in a career, Tac Meds carry.....

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    Ah yes. I remember my first shooting victim like it was 9 years ago. Actually, they mostly run together. One thing I learned. People can't shoot straight. By and large, the vast majority of fatal GSW (gunshot wounds) were self inflicted. Shell casings would be everywhere, usually only 1 or 2 hits. Yeah, not being allowed to carry really sucks.
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    My first shooting was a suicide, with a GSW to the head. He had been down a while in his back yard, and it was strange to watch flies going in and out of the wound. I had been riding for a while. so it wasn't a problem for me. Heck, my 4th call was an evisceration (knife wound to the abdomen, with the intestines hanging out. You grow up fast in EMS, even if you're a 17 year old junior member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBrombach View Post
    Ah yes. I remember my first shooting victim like it was 9 years ago. Actually, they mostly run together. One thing I learned. People can't shoot straight. By and large, the vast majority of fatal GSW (gunshot wounds) were self inflicted. Shell casings would be everywhere, usually only 1 or 2 hits. Yeah, not being allowed to carry really sucks.
    This is so true - when I first started working, I kept a log of the type of calls I went on - sort of a "journal" I suppose. I quit after a year of doing that - sometime was so busy it would have the date/time and "GSW to HEAD - Life must have sucked for him"

    You always remember your first death - your first serious domestic violence, your first serious child abuse case. The rest tend to all run together. I believe I can remember every single call that I went on were a child was killed however.

    One of my partners who started with me as a greenhorn - very quickly started becoming an anti - blaming the gun for the violence inflected on other individuals. His statements included "if they didn't have that gun, this wouldn't have happened". He then started looking at all the "gun violence" stats.

    As a greenhorn he was still "green" and we were able to turn him a little bit. We kept stats on the number of violence cases there were. i.e. "fist violence", "beer bottle violence", "Knife violence", and others that we named that are not suitable for putting in here. Soon we taught him that violence is violence regardless of the tool used in it. He is now a good friend (both have left the field) and a STRONG 2A supporter - he and wife, and oldest child are all carriers. I can still out shoot him, (but his wife shoots circles around us both).
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    Can he carry chemical sprays?

    Would he rather be fired or dead?
    "Each worker carried his sword strapped to his side." Nehemiah 4:18

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    Paramedics With Guns Scare People!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMan View Post
    You always remember your first death - your first serious domestic violence, your first serious child abuse case. The rest tend to all run together. I believe I can remember every single call that I went on were a child was killed however.
    Yeah, +1 to that. You remember the oddball calls more that the "routine" stuff. Something has to be different about the call to stand out in the memory after a few years, especially in a busy service.

    But the kid calls, for all that you want to forget them, stick with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLarson View Post

    But the kid calls, for all that you want to forget them, stick with you.

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    Every one of em. And I got out 3 1/2 years ago. Had as many in my last year as I did in my 1st five.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LBrombach View Post
    Had as many in my last year as I did in my 1st five.
    That sucks.

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    My last call as an active EMS provider was a traumatic arrest following an MVA. I was a block away in my personal vehicle when the call went out.

    It sucks to be the first medical provider on the scene with the police (who witnessed the accident) with two serious traumas.

    It sucks a bit worse when the police are doing CPR in the middle of the road when you arrive by yourself.

    It really sucks when the police are doing CPR on a 3 year old when you arrive by yourself.

    ( BTW, you will never see a happier police officer than the officer who was trying to help her when I walked up and identified myself as a Paramedic..... )

    I worked her on the scene with my medics until he helo arrived. She never regained a pulse.

    As it turns out, the case of pneumonia I had at the time was actually a collection of blood clots in my lungs. I had a heck of a time catching my breath after we put her in the helo. I was in the hospital a couple days later.

    Not really the way I wanted to end my career.

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    But the kid calls, for all that you want to forget them, stick with you.
    Not EMS but ex-LEO and yes it does even after 30 years

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    Shooting

    Just got back from a guy who shot himself in the head twice, and well known to us with a long history of attempts. I've got a feeling I'll remember that for a while. I've had shootings, suicides, beer bottle beat-downs, and stabbings all across the county where I work. From the "bad" areas to the "nice" parts of town. Unfortunatly, too many stories to tell. Those of you in the business know what kind of "magnet" I am...

    You should be well proud of your son for volunteering and putting up with all this without pay.

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    After 32 years as a medic.. I retired over a year ago. Still have the nightmares... waking up in a cold sweat over some of the calls.

    Kids are tough...

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