Pennsylvania question about laws

[Tim the Teacher]

From what I remember Pennsylvania does not allow preemption of state gun laws yet I just read that Peters Township in Pittsburgh has made it illegal to carry a concealed weapon in certain areas of the township even if you have a license.....

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07193/800894-55.stm

Peters

Council on Monday passed an ordinance prohibiting the possession of firearms on township property, including buildings, parks and other facilities. The exclusion includes those who are licensed to carry a concealed weapon, but not police officers. The action was sparked by a resident who brought a concealed firearm to a township meeting, alarming several residents who spotted it.

Any forum members in the Pittsburgh area or the state know about this?

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[General Geoff]

Fails. Even if you're caught and/or arrested due to this ordinance, there can be no charges brought upon you, or the charges will be thrown out of court. State preemption means state preemption.

[PAExplorer]

Is township property considered private? I think that is the question. If so, then they can forbid CC just like a store or mall can I guess.

[sportkcjc]

"passed an ordinance prohibiting the possession of firearms on township property, including buildings, parks and other facilities"

IMO, I think this would be the same as an owner posting a no firearms notice in thier establishment. In this case the properties are owned by the township, not the state, therfore wouldn't it be considered private property?

[LastManOut]

"IMO, I think this would be the same as an owner posting a no firearms notice in thier establishment. In this case the properties are owned by the township, not the state, therfore wouldn't it be considered private property?"

Who "OWNS" the township? A private individual or the citizens of the township?

[citizen510]

Isn't it amazing that the government likes to pass laws that make "victim zones"? I do not go to the parks in my area because the nice folks in the gubiments made it illegal to carry there and now they are "kill zones". And I like the park that is only 2 blocks from my house. And I pay taxes that help maintain that park. And I won't go there because it is a "victim zone" now.

[QKShooter]

Sounds like nothing more than a Township "feel good" ordinance to me.

[lexington86]

There's a whole thread about this over on the PAFOA forums with some pretty good info (LE and Lawyer input).

Here's the link: http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...576-legal.html

[sojourner]

Lexington86. I saw and participated in that. My twp. park has a sign for no firearms. I understand that the no pre-emption should rule and I should be OK, but the lawyer that responded to me really put a damper on me feeling good about disregarding what I perceived to be an unlawful local ordinance.

It does not seem so cut and dried as I thought earlier.