July 17th, 2007 04:25 PM
Open carry? Concealed carry? If both are legal, it really doesn't matter.
Just be aware of the pros and cons of each, act responsibly and make your decision.
I do both frequently. I will admit that I don't usually carry open unless I have several other armed friends with me.
See: we can discuss this in a friendly way.
fortiter in re, suaviter in modo (resolutely in action, gently in manner).
July 17th, 2007 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by OPFOR
Additionally carry concealed for the same reason I don't generally walk around wearing muscle ts anymore, or shirts from fight clubs (I've been seeing alot of these in my zone lately), I don't walk around telling people how much I make per year or what my networth is, or have a lic. plate with my horsepower or 0-60 times noted on it as I've seen other fools do as marketing to police and thieves.
Carrying concealed even in states that otherwise allow open carry works great for me because I don't have an object of high value hanging off my hip as motivation/temptation for hyena to think and plan to steal or 'test' me. As well if by chance I'm confronted and cornered by hyena they will not be aware of my actual/real power and resistance capabilities as a concealed person both in armament and base physical concern, and thus they are at a disadvantage and I am advantaged.
I some times think it would be 'cool' to carry openly but then my senses return and I'm like, nah.
Not even law enforcement officers other than beat cops and spec-ops /SWAT/drug interdiction carry openly if they don't have to and they commonly conceal secondary support tools such as BUGs and concealed knives for the same reason as I see it prudent and as very well put by OPFOR.
"I carry in order to protect myself from danger.....not so that danger can be invited." - KellyCooper, Defensive Carry.com
"Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy
"A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing
July 17th, 2007 05:18 PM
i'd prefer the BG not know i was carrying. small element of suprise, and doesn't promote me getting killed first. simple as that.
War is not the ugliest of things. Worse is the decayed state of moral feeling which thinks nothing is worth a war. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which he cares for more than his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free. -J.S. Mill
July 17th, 2007 05:28 PM
LEOs carry openly
I think one of the things that convinces me to carry concealed is looking at what happens to our law enforcement officers who carry openly. They are in the trenches every day and the BGs know that they are armed. The LEOs face getting ambushed when they walk up to cars, around corners, and into other buildings in response to a call. And in scuffles the BGs try to take thier weapons.
So if I am concealed, no one but me knows I am armed. This does create a tactical advantage as BGs may relax their guard somewhat since they feel they are dealing with a sheeple.
July 17th, 2007 05:47 PM
"Why do we as a whole choose to conceal like its a bad thing?"
There is Absolutely NO Doubt in my mind that legally carrying a
firearm to protect me and mine is a GOOD THING.
I carry concealed because in todays world to do otherwise will
SURELY bring me Unneeded and Unwanted attention.
If you carry a gun for protection , advertising it is just plain BAD
FYI - I don't always carry a SMALL gun either.
-SIG , it's What's for Dinner-
know your rights!
"If I walk in the woods, I feel much more comfortable carrying a gun. What if you meet a bear in the woods that's going to attack you? You shoot it."
July 17th, 2007 05:59 PM
+1 on what P95 stated so nicely.
July 17th, 2007 06:37 PM
Except for the part about Ohio, these are my feelings exactly. I don't have the time or energy to explain to the nice police officers who were called on a 'man with a gun' complaint that open carry is in fact legal in this state. Granted, that may not happen as frequently as I imagine it would, but I'm sure it would happen eventually. I want no part of it. I'm not ashamed that I carry and don't really try to hide it the way some people do, but I don't advertise either.
Originally Posted by luvmy40
“Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.” ~Pericles of Athens
Primary Carry - Colt Commander .45 in a Brommeland Max-Con V
July 17th, 2007 06:42 PM
Eh, the gun community seems to be filled with a lot of individualists. People that don't depend upon others for a lot of things, including protection.
So, it makes sense that they would choose to conceal a weapon so as to not draw attention to themselves and ultimately be left alone.
...He suggested that "every American citizen" should own a rifle and train with it on firing ranges "at every courthouse." -Chesty Puller
July 17th, 2007 06:51 PM
+1. Same thing will happen here in Texas since we're not an open carry state. If I could, more often not I would.
Originally Posted by MattLarson
"... Americans... we want a safe home, to keep the money we make and shoot bad guys." -- Denny Crane
July 17th, 2007 06:56 PM
I don't open carry for the same reason I don't hang a sign on my neck that says "SHOOT ME FIRST". It is not my job to be a crime deterrent, It is my job to protect my "family". I can do that best if a BG doesn't know already that I am armed. (I hope)
To those that paid for my freedom,
I WILL NEVER FORGET.
As with all statements I've made and All that I will make, please check your local laws to verify accuracy. (and if i'm wrong let me know as I like to be right in the future) After all I'm just some goofball posting on an internet forum.
July 17th, 2007 07:34 PM
First--ditto the tactical advantage thang. Just makes good sense. Why advertise?
Second--and I hope I never have to--for the look on some BG's face when I'm forced to pull out my Kimber with 13 rounds of 230 grain HP .45 just when he thinks he's got ME by the short ones!! Can you say: "I'll be your huckleberry?"
Third--I don't feel I owe any explanation to any person as to why I choose to carry ["need to know" as the spooks would say]. Concealed carry let's me arm myself while minding my own business.
Four--I do it because I can and because I trust ME.
Don't forget to bow as the chariot passes.
July 17th, 2007 07:40 PM
I have to completely agree with the tactical advantage of the element of surprise. I see no need to advertise to the potential BG that I am armed. If he forces me to show him, I want it to be an unpleasant surprise.
Battle Plan (n) - a list of things that aren't going to happen if you are attacked.
Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.
July 17th, 2007 07:45 PM
Mine just says "Pennsylvania License To Carry Firearms", form SP 4-129 (12-2003), Chris.
Originally Posted by P95Carry
Clinging to guns and God in PA...
July 17th, 2007 07:47 PM
This question was put forward by a member from Alaska, which is still very much 'free'. Others here are in less 'free' states.
So all tactical considerations aside we need to remember that some of us are bound by local laws.
July 17th, 2007 07:48 PM
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