Arizona Carry Question
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What is the Arizona law for a concealed carry licensee having ...
July 18th, 2007 03:26 PM
Arizona Carry Question
I have a Kansas CCL, but spend a fair amount of time in Arizona.
What is the Arizona law for a concealed carry licensee having a handgun in a car?
Can it be in stored in a middle console or glove compartment? If yes, can the handgun be loaded?
Thanks in advance.
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July 18th, 2007 03:26 PM
July 18th, 2007 05:04 PM
If you have a CWP that Az honors, then you are good to go as long as the pistol is holstered, IIRC.
July 18th, 2007 05:09 PM
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July 18th, 2007 06:59 PM
From the link above: "Arizona Recognizes all other states valid permits"
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July 18th, 2007 07:08 PM
Sorry I missed this one. You can carry loaded open in the vehicle in plain view, on your person, or in a glove box or storage container WITH a vaild CWP. Pretty much wherever.
Originally Posted by jayhawk
If you had no permit it would need to be completely visible or in a holster inside the glovebox and or storage compartment.
welcome to AZ
A.R.S. 13-3102 Misconduct involving weapons; defenses; classification; definitions A. A person commits misconduct involving weapons by knowingly: 1. Carrying a deadly weapon without a permit pursuant to section 13-3112 2. Carrying a deadly weapon without a permit pursuant to section 13-3112 concealed within immediate control of any person in or on a means of transportation; F. Subsection A, paragraph 1 of this section shall not apply to a weapon or weapons carried in a belt holster which holster is wholly or partially visible, or carried in a scabbard or case designed for carrying weapons which scabbard or case is wholly or partially visible or carried in luggage. Subsection A, paragraph 2 of this section shall not apply to a weapon or weapons carried in a case, holster, scabbard, pack or luggage that is carried within a means of transportation or within a storage compartment, map pocket, trunk or glove compartment of a means of transportation.
Case law, particularly State v. Moerman, 182 Ariz, 255, 895 P2.d 1018 (Dec. 13, 1994), Rev. Denied (1995), has created a great deal of uncertainty about permitless carry in containers that may not "reasonably place others on notice that such person is armed." Despite the current ambiguity surrounding permitless carry, most Arizona peace officers seem to believe that if a firearm is carried out of sight within a storage compartment or a glove compartment of a vehicle, without a permit, it must be carried there in a holster.
July 18th, 2007 07:33 PM
Furthering on AZChevy's excellent response:
IANAL... However I have heard this from an officer. It goes along with State v. Moerman. I don't personally know anyone that has ever had to test it though:
If for some reason you don't have your CWP with you, AZ has what some refer to as "Two-Step Car Concealment." Meaning that the gun is legal in your car as long as it takes two steps to get the firearm into action. Some officers will say that simply having to unlock your glove box counts as a step, so a holster may not be necessary. It all depends on the officer, though. The vast majority out here are very friendly to gun owners as long as the citizen is honest and very upfront about it. However, I live up north. In Phoenix or Tucson, I would make damned sure I had the permit with me.
Having the gun in your glove box and holstered. You would have to open the glove box and remove the firearm from the holster before bringing it to battery.
Other than that, if you have your permit with you, the gun is legal just about anyplace in the car.
Hopefully this helps.
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