This is a discussion on Apprehension about concealed carry at work within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Ipack I think you should carry more when not at work until you can get over the feeling everyone will be watching ...
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My two cents...
IPack is dead on here. I am in an office that used to have a "No-Weapons" policy that bordered on rediculous. When the new HR person came on board, and rewrote the employee handbook, that policy was left out. Not only that, but we have a sign at the front desk of "No Firearms Allowed" that was colored in crayon. Yes, is really is colored in crayon. Because of this, I was smack dab in the middle of a situation similar to yours.
When I was still a new carry, I felt that the world was watching me. These behaviors probably "signaled" that I was carrying. As IPack suggested, take a few weeks to learn how to wear your holster and how to wear your gun. there will be a few things that you will learn that you cannot do and stay concealed, and then there are a few things/places to avoid. Get comfortable with carrying, then at that point, take it to work. The habits you develop now will carry over to the office.
Remember, it seems that only those of us that carry spend the extra couple of seconds looking over someone to determine threat potentials. The average person is not in a habit of looking for persons that might do harm, nor are they in a habit to look for someone who might be carrying a firearm.
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Thanks everyone for your responses!
Good idea. I will give it a go.One thing you might do is wear just the holster for a few days. If it is an IWB, just wear it and see if anyone notices the clips, straps or other fastenings. Plus you get a chance to get the feel before you have the full weight and bulk of your weapon.
No, there isn't much that could get me made unless I did something stupid. I sit on my butt most of the time (desk job). I occasionally do some PC and server moves so the only time I could see myself made is if I were forced to get under someone's desk to hook up his/her PC. Dress code is business casual...slacks and a shirt. Being in IT I get away with waring a polo shirt untucked.Is there anything about your job could get you made; such as dress code, physical activity, physical contact?
I currently carry Sig P229R. Not what I would call "small"I don't know what you carry but you may want to consider something small
Not really an option. I park my car at a commuter rail station 50 miles away from my office. Having my gun there wouldn't be very useful.If you have apprehension, don't, leave it in the car
Isn't most employment "at will"? I am pretty sure I could be let go for no good reason.If you are in an at will employment state, they don't really need a firearms regulation, nor do they need a reason to terminate you.
Thanks IPack. I like your advice.I think you should carry more when not at work until you can get over the feeling everyone will be watching you. I believe you will get over that in a couple months, but make sure you carry a lot so it becomes second nature. I think you should carry at home also, it will help you get over your apprehension. When you are around the same people day in and day out I'm sure you run more risk of questions about your wardrobe, but I don't believe people will notice if you are truly concealed. The more you carry and the longer you carry the more comfortable you will be. Good luck and stay safe.
Quote: Being in IT I get away with waring a polo shirt untucked.
is that not the greatest? :)
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I'll vote for the "wear just the holster for a while". I do that sometimes .
Yep. No one's gonna make you if you're wearing Thunderwear unless they feel at liberty to just walk up and grab your crotch! (And then you have a moneymaking lawsuit!
My feeling is that if you are this worried about being made, you are not adequately practiced at carrying concealed. Don't go carrying in a place where you don't want to be made, until you are good enough at your carrying technique/procedure that you KNOW you are not going to be made.
It sucks being forced to make this decision but some people have to and if not carrying means they get to keep their job, house, car, support their wife & kids, and provide for their future then you can't really blame them for disarming.
That said, if there is no policy or rule regarding the carry of firearms I say go for it. Chances are you won't ever get made but if you do you have your employee handbook on your side. You can go from there.
My son is an administrator in a patient care environment, his work place is prime for getting hugged by nurses, patients, family. He and I were discussing cc the other day, he'll be applying soon, and I suggested to him that due to the "hugging potential" that he should probably cc below his belt at work. He's considering a pocket holster and a Rohrbaugh 9mm.
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A big +1 on the Smartcarry. A medium sized one and a Kahr PM9 is a sweet concealed carry setup.
+1 on the Stay Safe, Stay Armed.
Would an ankle holster work with a j-frame or KT?
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