Montana Indian reservations

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    Montana Indian reservations

    Does anyone know the reality of carrying concealed through any of the Indian reservations in MT. Specifically the Flathead and the Crow.

    Note the word through. No plans to spend any time there, just going from Missoula to Kalispell, etc.

    Not a problem obviously, unless your stopped.

    Thanks.
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    As far as I know, and I am not a lawyer and this should not be taken as legal advice, if you are travelling on a public highway you are fine. As soon as you get off the highway, to get gas, eat and what not, then the "rules/laws" of the reservation apply.

    I hope this helps. We have a lot of Rez here in the southwest and it's hard to tell whose land you are on without a surveyor. I gas up prior to, and after, Indian Country to avoid setting foot on the Rez.

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    I am not a lawyer either but I would *think* that a rez would be more lenient with gun laws/restrictions than your state.

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    As far as I know there is nothing in the Montana carry laws that distinguishes between the rez or any other part of the state. I do know that if for some reason, should you get in trouble on the rez you will need to get a lawyer that speaks the tribal tongue. Just stay on the road, do the speed limit and don't stop. Not much to see there anyway. IMHO
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    I live just north of the Flathead Indian Reservation. Montana state law applies on the reservations. Concealed carry is subject to the same restrictions on tribal land as it is in the rest of the state. That is, concealed carry is prohibited in financial institutions, places that serve alcohol for consumption on the premises, government buildings, and trains.

    The tribes do not issue their own concealed weapons permits. One size fits all in the State of Montana. In fact, CWPs are not even necessary outside of the boundaries of an incorporated city or town.

    Note the word through. No plans to spend any time there, just going from Missoula to Kalispell, etc.
    Be very careful to obey the posted speed limit (45 MPH) on U.S. Highway 93 through the reservation. Can you spell "speed trap"?


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    If you have not yet done so, you may find some information by clicking here:

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/

    Across the top of the page there is a link button for "Indian Nations." You may find something there.

    Good luck, and stay safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by falcon1 View Post
    If you have not yet done so, you may find some information by clicking here:

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/

    Across the top of the page there is a link button for "Indian Nations." You may find something there.

    Good luck, and stay safe!

    Thanks for the suggestion, falcon 1, but the OP won't find anything there. If he accesses the web site for the Confederated Salish & Kootenai Tribes, whose reservation he will be driving through between Missoula & Kalispell, all he will find are hunting regs, nothing about concealed carry.


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    I had a friend pulled over while traveling through the rez. The officer saw his new Sig 229 on the seat and tried to confiscate it. A very loud discussion ensued where my friend insisted the officer's supervisor must come. The officer finally backed down and stormed back to his SUV. Wisdom says keep the gun locked and out of site going through the rez.

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    I hate to give out 'maybes' but for some reason the phrase "permission from the tribal judge" popped into my mind when I read your post...

    I can only quote from the Oregon CHL pamphlet:

    INDIAN RESERVATIONS / PROPERTY

    Tribal Councils govern all rules and regulations pertinent to their lands. Generally, non-Indians are prohibited from carrying guns on reservations, tribal lands and tribal casinos. Unless you have explicit permission of the tribal council do not carry your firearm while visiting or driving through tribal lands.
    I hope that doesn't confuse the issue; I assume that it doesn't matter what state a reservation is in...

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    I can only quote from the Oregon CHL pamphlet:



    INDIAN RESERVATIONS / PROPERTY

    Tribal Councils govern all rules and regulations pertinent to their lands. Generally, non-Indians are prohibited from carrying guns on reservations, tribal lands and tribal casinos. Unless you have explicit permission of the tribal council do not carry your firearm while visiting or driving through tribal lands.
    I hope that doesn't confuse the issue; I assume that it doesn't matter what state a reservation is in...
    But it does confuse the issue. The OP was asking about reservations in Montana, not Oregon. Tribal lands in Oregon are governed differently from tribal lands in Montana.

    No such restriction exists on tribal lands in Montana.


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    Howdy all! First post here.

    I live on the Flathead Reservation although I am not a tribal member.

    As a CCW holder, I have done some research. I haven't found any regulations that contradict state laws except one: in the Tribal Wilderness Area a non-tribal member is not allowed to have a gun in one's possession. (That sort of peeves me since there are lots of bears around here...) The wilderness area is in the Mission Mountains and is off the regular highway. In other words, you won't go in there by accident.

    I live in and picked up my permit in Lake County, which is entirely on the reservation. I really don't see how the county could issue permits that were not valid in the county in which they were issued!

    As long as you are not going into the Mission Mountains Tribal Wilderness Area, you don't have anything to worry about.

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    Welcome to the forum, fellow Montanan!

    I live north of you, in Flathead County.

    Your information is right on point. Thanks very much for posting it.


    When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
    And the women come out to cut up what remains,
    Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
    And go to your God like a soldier.

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    Terry

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    Tribal Lands Differ

    I've travelled in, and through, many reservations in the Southwest and Northwest. Each has it's own set of rules. If your going to stay on the highway you will have no problems. If you plan on travelling the interior of the reservation, the best thing to do is contact them first and ask what their policy is.

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    Thanks to all. I'm slow in responding, since I've spent the last week in the Flathead valley, and not in places with aircard coverage.

    I'm very glad to hear that the reservations seem to have a reasonable take on this. Without that knowledge, I did lock up my carry piece while traveling through. Nice to know for the future though.

    We used to live in MT, but CCW was not available then. Outside the cities, everyone just carried as desired(except in Glacier where you really needed it). I did see someone carry openly in a sporting goods store in Kalispell back then. Don't know if that's still available today, wasn't common then.

    Thanks again.
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